07-10-2018, 11:06 PM | #1 |
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New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
I just wanted to introduce a new limitation called Threshold-Limited. When applied to an ability, it gives a limitation worth -10% per point of threshold that a character gains when using the ability (sustained abilities give the character the full value for the first minute and half value, rounded up, for every additional minute). Characters are capable of accepting 30 points of threshold before they have to make a calamity check and lose 8 points of threshold every day.
Threshold-Limited, 1 point of threshold from using the ability (-10%) is one of the two limitations associated with the Threshold Source, the other being Requires IQ roll (-10%). In total, the Threshold Source is worth -20%, and it is capable of being used with any power associated with the Magical Source (plus Anti-Magic). Characters who use abilities associated with the Threshold Source are capable of ignoring the requirement for mana because they manipulate reality through visualization, but they must perfectly visualize their desires and risk being punished by reality for their hubris. What do you think? Would you use the Threshold-Limited limitation or the Threshold Source for Powers? |
07-11-2018, 02:53 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Oct 2005
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07-11-2018, 06:17 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Re: New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
So, we have a character with Burning Attack 15d (Jet, +0%; Threshold, -20%) [60]. Before each attack, they would be required to make an IQ roll to visualize their attack and, if successful, would gain one point of threshold before rolling to attack. They would be able to tolerate up to 30 threshold before reality started objecting to their actions.
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07-11-2018, 06:54 PM | #4 | |
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Re: New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
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Will Talent add to the IQ roll? Can PCs buy an IQ roll bonus e.g. +1 for 5%? EDIT I like the idea of Threshold being an official modifier BTW. Seems to fit a lot of character concepts well. |
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07-11-2018, 08:38 PM | #5 | |
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Re: New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
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The calamity check is what make threshold dangerous (you cannot 'exhaust' threshold, you can only dig yourself into a deeper hole). At 30 points of threshold, you have a 50% chance of suffering Nightmares (9) for 4d nights on an average roll. At 40 points of threshold, you have have a 50% chance of suffering a threshold reduction of 4d+10 for 1d weeks on an average roll (meaning that your threshold could drop to an average of 6, meaning that your 40 points of threshold will give +7 to you calamity rolls for the next 1d weeks. At 50 points of threshold, you have a 50% chance of suffering a critical failure on every threshold related activity for the next 1d+1 weeks. And it just keeps getting worse. |
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07-12-2018, 01:09 AM | #6 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
GURPS Horror already covers this. If you read Power Corrupts (pp.146–147, stopping just before the sample Corruption system), you'll see that the power tally used by Threshold-Limited Magic is a kind of Corruption, which means that the Corrupting limitation on p.22 is what you'd use to cause an Advantage to generate Tally when used.
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07-12-2018, 01:27 AM | #7 | |
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I have been reading this thread but still not really decided how I feel about it. I like the idea but not sure its worth an additional limitation compared to costs FP. Anymore than Threshold is not a limitation on Magery, its just changing the parameters from tactical to a more strategic option.
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07-12-2018, 01:40 AM | #8 | |
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Re: New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
Doesn't it? Applying a Limitation to an Ability causes it to build up a tally toward a Threshold when used; that's exactly what his proposed Threshold-Limited limitation would do.
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07-12-2018, 01:44 AM | #9 |
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Re: New Limitation: Threshold-Limited
The Corruption is based on the amount of points saved with the limitation. You could add FP to the mix of course and I guess change the Threshold Tally to get the desired results.
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07-12-2018, 01:52 AM | #10 | |
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Exactly. |
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