01-04-2015, 11:20 AM | #1 |
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Probably A Stupid Question But...
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A bunch of angels in vessels hunt down a shedim who is occupying a body. How should they approach? They can't kill the vessel to drive out the shedim and then go after it while it's in celestial form, can they? Again I apologize if this is a stupid question. I haven't played in awhile and am missing the answer.
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01-04-2015, 02:01 PM | #2 |
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Re: Probably A Stupid Question But...
Shedim haven't got Vessels, they have hosts, which is the crux of the problem: You can kill the host to force the Shedite into Celestial form, but most angelic Superiors frown on offing innocent humans, even if you are demon hunting. Also, it creates a wicked lot of Disturbance.
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01-04-2015, 03:25 PM | #3 | |
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01-04-2015, 04:17 PM | #4 |
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I can't find the rule right now, but IIRC the Kyrio would have to a) have at least as many Forces as the Shedite, and b)beat the Shedite in contest of Wills to eject it.(separate from the roll to possess the host in the first place.)
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01-04-2015, 04:47 PM | #5 |
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Re: Probably A Stupid Question But...
Yes, "host". That's what I meant. So if I was running a game would it be too cruel to put this shedim into the body of a 10 year old girl? Let the angels wrestle with trying not to hurt the girl but having to get that shedim before too much harm is done? Basically, I want to see the guys agonize over the plan. Even in D&D and other games they're very "smash-n-bash" and I want to see them have to think for a change.
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01-04-2015, 04:55 PM | #6 | |
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01-04-2015, 06:42 PM | #7 |
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Re: Probably A Stupid Question But...
Depending on the circumstances -- particularly if it's there primarily to corrupt the little girl -- then a good countermeasure might simply be to get all up in its grill. Once a Shedite knows it's made, and especially if a patient angel is consistently hanging around and trying to counteract its temptations, they frequently try to flee to a new host, preferably subtly.
As mentioned before, a Kyriotate can try to possess the girl, forcing a contest of Wills with the Shedite. A Shedite has limited time in a single body. One option, if anyone has a suitable Role, is to isolate the girl for long enough to run out the clock without giving her opportunities to sin grievously. Depending on her current behavior, this may range from "This star student has been selected for a live-in student experience at (local angelic Tether)!" to a troubled-kids camp. Or, you know, if she's a street urchin with no family, kidnapping. The Shedite will probably clue in quick in that case. |
01-05-2015, 05:32 AM | #8 | |
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01-05-2015, 05:37 AM | #9 |
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Re: Probably A Stupid Question But...
Canon already makes Angels morally gray at best. I have trouble imagining anyone wanting to play a game where evil Angels murder kids to "save" them from just as evil Demons.
Even White Wolf games didn't do that so much. That was for their smaller Black Dog line.
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01-05-2015, 06:34 AM | #10 | |
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Angels in the setting of Supernatural are pretty ruthless and don't hesitate to kill possessed humans in the name of righteousness. Plenty of people play the Supernatural setting and enjoy the show regardless. And then there's the bible were angels, for example, kill numerous children in Egypt at God's command and many think of that as Holy will and thus righteous. Allot of people either feel that if its Heaven/God's will that its just or enjoy the moral uncertainty or even horror of a Heaven that, from a human perspective is hard to tell from Hell. Its definitely not to everyone's tastes but there are games and fiction that are that dark with a significant fan base. |
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