10-17-2017, 06:28 PM | #1 |
Wielder of Smart Pants
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Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
I just beat this mission but I am fairly sure that I shouldn't have. Is there a rules reason that I missing for why the AI doesn't ram the train or force the the train to ram its Ogres?
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10-17-2017, 06:54 PM | #2 |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
Nope. I'm very sure the AI is severely broken on this scenario. I saw numerous things that it did (or didn't do) that made no sense at all. It has no concept of what is needed to complete the scenario. The main thing I saw was it choosing to fire at AUs rather than the train or rails (multiple times).
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10-17-2017, 06:57 PM | #3 | |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
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I suspect that if the AI wasn't playing stupidly, this would be an unbeatable scenario. |
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10-17-2017, 07:37 PM | #4 | ||
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
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There is a note in the game's "how to play" notes that may shed some light on the non-ramming of the train, though. Quote:
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10-17-2017, 07:54 PM | #5 |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
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10-17-2017, 08:30 PM | #6 | |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
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These kinds of scenarios are best the first time through. They lose a lot of replay value once you "solve" them. That's why being able to change them, play different sides, etc is so important.
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10-19-2017, 02:48 PM | #7 |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
Found some more bugs:
[1] Lower left Howitzer cannot target anything. I lured an Ogre within range and it refused to fire. It won't even fire on the road hex right next to it. [2] Deploy your units, then hit restart mission. The game resets with no howitzers or train. Next move, hangs in fire mode. You can't target anything, even a road, and the end phase button doesn't work. Restart mission brings everything back to normal. Are these bug reports being written down somewhere, or do I have to go through some extra steps? |
10-19-2017, 02:52 PM | #8 |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
You should report them to Auroch. You can use the "Feedback" button in-game or just send it to the email address. The only reason I started this thread was to confirm that the AI was playing stupidly, and that it wasn't me misunderstanding some rule.
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10-19-2017, 03:00 PM | #9 |
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Location: Minnesota
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
I didn't have any bugs with this scenario. I won because the AI spent its time beating up my units instead of by-passing them to go for the train.
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10-19-2017, 03:03 PM | #10 |
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Re: Nightfall Mission Eight - Train Rules
As far as I can tell the game doesn't allow the AI to ram the train or force the train to ram its Ogres, which isn't a software bug technically but is an instance of the game not implementing the board game rules correctly. The AI apparently ignoring the train and the rails is probably more accurately a software bug though, since it shouldn't be doing this.
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