12-12-2006, 08:13 PM | #31 | ||
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The business of the Ring focusing the "Morgoth Element", incidently, comes from volume 10 of the History, "Morgoth's Ring". Quote:
1) There's already a Lord of the Rings RPG, so at least some of the people who'd be doing it in GURPS otherwise are probably just playing that (well, either - there's the current one and the old MERPS game). 2) There probably is a lot of fan-made stuff (I know I've seen several discussions here on the boards, for example), but no-one has gone through and compiled it all into one source. 3) Going through the Histories is, like I said, a slog. Finding the gems of concise essays requires reading through a lot of half-finished jot-notes. Not everyone is willing to put in the work. |
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12-12-2006, 08:40 PM | #32 | |
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"suite 101, middle earth", lots of articles http://search.netcenter.netscape.com....cfm%2Ftolkien |
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12-14-2006, 08:09 AM | #33 | |
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As far as what it does is concerned... I'd say it gave the user access to a couple of innate powers (invisibility, unaging, etc) and Power (x) in various fields. The wearer would have to have the skill associated with the power to use the power- no default use allowed. Last edited by rosignol; 12-14-2006 at 08:15 AM. Reason: clarification |
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12-14-2006, 10:57 AM | #34 |
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And of course we ought to bear in mind that if the One Ring isn't the point of the campaign and is just some ... ahem ... k3wl lwt ... then things have gone very non-Tolkein.
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12-14-2006, 12:33 PM | #35 | |
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On the other hand it does seem to hawe sort of effect on mowing the wearer to some sort of other realm, where the ringwraiths can actually see and be seen more clearly - and that realm seems harder to see into with corporeal eyes - the ringwraiths are pretty featureles when seen corporeally only but detailed in the "ringrealm"... MAybe it's a bit of both.. But Akahiges theory is sort of aesthetical and since we're talking about literary thing that counts a lot... The tought of Boromir putting it on and becoming invisible doesn't seem nearly as cool as him putting it on and becoming a superwarlord unbeateable in combat and able to raise armies with few shouts, etc. But how to expres that in GURPS terms??? (On the other hand bilbo did not hawe ability to be ignored by other halflings - on the contrary he was a celebrity on bags end - yet he became invisible to other halflings too...) |
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12-14-2006, 01:04 PM | #36 | |
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Ok, so if I read the previous posts right, the Ring enhances the "spirit" side of the wearer, which is the "true" source of magic, charisma (for lack of a better term), and overall reality-shaping power (also for lack of a better term). And going invisible (or at least uncontrollably so) would simply be a side-effect of being enhanced to a more "spiritual" state. Am I close? |
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12-14-2006, 01:29 PM | #37 | |
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There are various ways personal power can be spent in Tolkien's world - from creating powerful objects, to dominating or convincing others to do what you want, to world-changing effects that would probably be labeled "magic". Of course, what a Ring-wearer uses the power for depends on their personality and abilities. As an example, let's consider three characters from Lord of The Rings who had the chance to take the Ring (but didn't, obviously): Gandalf, had he took the Ring, would probably have used it to convince people to do what he wanted them to do. He would have started out using the power to convince people to fight Sauron, for good, but eventually he would have been corrupted, and started simply convincing people to do what he wanted because that's he wanted to happen. Also, Gandalf's extensive skill with fire magic would probably mean that he would have used the Ring's power to throw a lot of fireballs. Aragorn, with the Ring, would probably have focused on direct domination of others. Where Gandalf would be supernaturally convincing and persuasive, Aragorn would be supernaturally dominant - when he says jump, everyone is a foot in the air before they ask "how high?" Also, Aragorn's natural skill in arms would likely have been enhanced, leaving him a truly terrible force on the battlefield. Galadriel, bearing the One, would proably have led through sheer supernatural charisma and beauty. Galdalf might convince you to do what he wanted, Aragorn might order you, but with Galadriel, you'd do everything in your power to do what she wanted before she even asked, just to make her happy. Galdriel would probably have used the Ring to preserve what was beautiful and pleasant, unchanging and imperishable - creating a world of stasis, where everything was frozen at its most "beautiful" moment (at least, in Galadriel's opinion). |
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12-14-2006, 01:48 PM | #38 | |
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I don't think what you said is mutually exclusive with my attempted explanation. It sounds to me like the Morgoth element is simply one aspect of the generic power in the world. The little I know about the Silmarillion is in regard to how the physical world was created, and I presume what you refer to as the 'Morgoth element' is simply the result of his self-centered behavior while participating in the big "song" that created the world.
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12-14-2006, 02:04 PM | #39 | ||
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Also, note that the Ring would enhance any ability the wearer possessed - as I mentioned, it would have enhanced Aragorn's combat ability, and that was pretty clearly non-magical. Likewise, Gandalf mentioned that Smeagol/Gollum's ability to hide and sneak about was enhanced when he got the Ring (in the chapter The Shadow of The Past). |
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12-14-2006, 02:11 PM | #40 |
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So we're back where we started, with the One Ring being confusingly undescribable in game terms?
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