08-05-2018, 06:26 PM | #11 |
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Re: After the End, except it never stopped ending...
For a long duration war, it could be a deliberate conspiracy to maintain authoritarianism.
"We have always been at war eith Eastasia." Which leads a grimdark war setting to discovery of the conspiracy and then an attempt to break it. Nice long campaign arc.
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08-05-2018, 06:30 PM | #12 |
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Re: After the End, except it never stopped ending...
In the same vein but not exactly what you're looking for - Phillip K Dick had a story called "The Defenders" that was about WWX between the Yellow Hordes and the West (in the radio version I heard, but vs the Soviets in the story) that became bad enough that everyone went to live and fight underground. It's been 16 years and the war continues, run by the loyal robots on each side... or does it?
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08-06-2018, 07:11 PM | #15 | |
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"Therefore, I have heard of military campaigns that were clumsy but swift, but I have never seen military campaigns that were skilled but protracted. No nation has ever benefited from protracted warfare." - Sun Tzu [02.08] Even in the preindustrial era it just wasn't practical to have an unending war. Even the so called Hundred Years war was actually a series of wars broken up by the occasional peace. Long term direct war is simply not viable once you hit TL6. The US found that out in a place called Vietnam and the USSR found out the same thing in Afghanistan. |
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08-06-2018, 08:03 PM | #16 |
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Re: After the End, except it never stopped ending...
“Nims qarlo clobregnny prite arem aean teaan deao!”
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08-06-2018, 10:49 PM | #17 | |
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Do remember that was 'war' not war. A conspiracy to maintain a war footing and the associated authoritatian control. Hard to do on more than one planet, of course. But find out why the situation exists is a campaign goal, and how to fix it (or maintain it) another.
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08-07-2018, 01:26 AM | #19 |
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Re: After the End, except it never stopped ending...
Likewise, the current US involvement in Afghanistan is about to run twice as long at the USSR's did.
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08-07-2018, 02:41 AM | #20 |
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Re: After the End, except it never stopped ending...
The basic issue for long duration wars is that high intensity conflicts can't keep going for very long (they're too destructive), but low intensity or intermittent conflicts, particularly if they receive external support, can keep grinding on for ages.
If you want a nasty but subtle ongoing AtE, have alien/demonic/extradimensional/whatever arms merchants that don't directly do anything -- they just sell weapons in a way that makes things worse (either they're directly trying to make things worse, or there are two groups engaged in a proxy war). This has the interesting side benefit that challenges will actually tend to scale somewhat with the progress of the PCs, as the arms merchants are likely to tune their sales with an eye towards maintaining conflict. Last edited by Anthony; 08-07-2018 at 02:51 AM. |
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