10-30-2017, 11:02 PM | #21 | |
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I'm picturing spear and shield, something like this Yes. I've heard the theory that Scythian horse-archers form the basis for early centaur myths. |
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10-30-2017, 11:32 PM | #22 |
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Re: Melee combat with a centaur...
Not only that, but if you're up close to the horse/centaur, when it spins you'll get slammed.
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10-31-2017, 01:00 AM | #23 |
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10-31-2017, 05:09 AM | #24 |
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Re: Melee combat with a centaur...
I believe there's a weapon called a "horse cutter."
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10-31-2017, 05:35 AM | #25 |
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While centaurs are depicted as archers in Greek art, the thread specifies melee combat, so lets largely assume the centaur doesn't have a bow today.
It's a pole-arm, and in general continues the theme of "get a long pointy thing between you and them". Another suggestion: be a doplnelsoldier and get yourself a zweihander; go for the legs, or for the "abdomen/neck" between the human torso and the horse torso. Another suggestion: get yourself one-or-many bolas and entangle or break the legs. That's breaking the "melee" rule though. Wear plate, if you're rich enough. Actually if we're talking wealth, wear plate, ride a warhorse in barding, and use a shield and a longsword (if it's unarmored) or a big mace or morningstar (if it's armored). I'd suggest a lance but I'm skeptical of how useful they are on the actual battlefield rather than as sports equipment. Your horse isn't going to be moving as fast as the centaur (because it's got a plonking great pile of armor on it), but don't play silly stupids with the centaur. Wait. Eventually the centaur is going to have to close with you if you're supposed to have melee combat. If he decides to go away, you win, because you're not dead. I don't see why the centaur would be hard to armor, by the way; humans and horses have both been heavily armored in various points in history, as well as lightly armored.
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10-31-2017, 09:06 AM | #26 |
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Re: Melee combat with a centaur...
I once spent a day with some very patient, well-trained horses training this. It is definitely a risky move (and much worse if they have peytrals).
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10-31-2017, 09:30 AM | #27 | |
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As for their size, while they're obviously SM +1, that comes from the fact that a centaur would make Kim Kardashian look like Twiggy, with an extra set of legs to boot(y). I'd treat them as SM 0 for purposes of height (ignore Combat at Different Levels, pp. B402-403), reach, and ability to wear Torso and Head armor. Their hindquarters need SM +1 barding, however, and obviously a human trying to hit them gets a +1 to hit (though the centaur would take no penalty). |
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10-31-2017, 04:07 PM | #28 | |
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But a centuar's "human" body is in the front hex, I would assume. Which means he can use a reach 1 weapon on any of those front three hexes. Which, is a rather different deal than a human on a horse. So, be aware.
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10-31-2017, 04:19 PM | #29 |
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There are definitely classical and ancient depictions of half-horse half-human archers. Nergal, the god, was an archer, and that influenced later depictions of centaurs, including the constellation Sagittarius. Chiron taught Achilles to shoot, and was therefore also depicted as an archer.
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10-31-2017, 04:35 PM | #30 | |
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… No wonder I wasn’t familiar with him. He’s Mesopotamian, and centaurs are Greek, and you’re assuming an origin of centaurs in mythology that isn’t supported as the zodiac came to Greece long after centaurs appeared in artwork. While I’m not going to say never since I’m mostly into Rome, not Greece, and hardly an art buff, do you have any valid examples? You just gave me one who was extolled as a legendary exception and another who has nothing to do with this. You’re 0-for-2. |
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