10-12-2017, 03:11 PM | #11 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
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10-12-2017, 03:15 PM | #12 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
The Gulliver rules referenced above do okay for this, to the extent you want regular strength pixies mixing it up in melee with big-folk. I'd argue that the pixie way is blades covered in poison, but if you really want pixies to go around clubbing people with sticks, and to have that make sense, that's the best option. So base damage on ST 10, multiply by ST/10
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10-12-2017, 06:26 PM | #13 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
I get ST 63.2 (2 x 10^(3/2)).
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10-12-2017, 06:34 PM | #14 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
Sort of my point. Manufactured weapons scaled to the same proportions as human ones would realistically be so weak that something Pixie sized with that much strength couldn't use one without breaking it. Yes they should also break their own limbs pretty much any time they apply their full ST to anything at all - that's the central realism gap here, they're *too strong*.
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10-12-2017, 06:47 PM | #15 | |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
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10-12-2017, 07:33 PM | #16 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
I believe the basic anchor point for reducing damage with scale is the damage values of those weapons that actually are approximately scaled versions of each other. Going from a thrusting greatsword to a small knife drops damage from Sw+3 cut/Th+3 imp to Sw-3 cut/Th-1 imp, so -6 to swing and -4 to thrust for something around a -6 SM change in blade length.
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10-13-2017, 03:06 AM | #17 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
Seems to me that anyone that can hold a blade almost as long as he/she is... In this case a 6 inch Pixie with a 6 inch blade does a helluva lot more damage with it than it's fists. Worried about breakage? Faerie quality and Orichalum.
The SM penalty to weapon damage is the part I find excessive, If pixies are exceptionally strong for their size why are they "weaker" when wielding a weapon? Even with a staff (Made from orichalum?) the part of the pixie being so strong that it'll break the weapon makes little sense. I can swing a branch and break it on your head but I might still inflict more damage than if I'd just punched you. Thank you all for your input, I think this is a dilemma only solved with errata or a decision from SJGames, until then one can make his own house rules or use the Gulliver rules.. |
10-13-2017, 10:06 AM | #18 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
It's true, a branch is large enough to increase damage, but it's because it's long enough to give leverage. Hit someone with a toothpick. Swing it, as hard as you can. Or a match. Even if it doesn't break, it's too small to do any damage, it in fact does less damage than your hands.
The one place I think the rules are goofy is on thrust damage. On swing it makes perfect sense. But that toothpick used to poke someone causes more damage than poking them with your finger. When you are talking about thrust, smaller isn't necessarily worse. But swing gets more damage because it applies leverage. The power of leverage is proportional to the size of the lever. |
10-13-2017, 11:21 AM | #19 | |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
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There's no errata needed here, this is as it should be. If instead of a pixie you imagined a heavyweight boxer either punching you or smacking you with a chopstick, you can see that doing more damage with a punch makes sense. If you want your pixie to do real damage with a melee weapon, use an oversized weapon. Really though DF pixies are better off using spells. Last edited by sir_pudding; 10-13-2017 at 11:28 AM. |
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10-13-2017, 11:28 AM | #20 |
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Re: Pixie Weapon Damage
Using LTC2 rules the SM -6 staff will do straight Sw damage
Problem is it's Min ST will be tiny If you want brawny tiny things doing credible melee damage, then you really need to get the DM to allow 'Rules Exemption 3x Min ST' as a perk |
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