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Old 10-17-2016, 12:40 AM   #31
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Removable axe heads. Could there ever be a reason to hide the fact that your pole is really a staff with the magic temporarily suppressed by the functional blade?
Doesn't help the OP, they want to do cutting damage and deliver a melee spell.
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:25 AM   #32
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I'd allow it to work on the haft of a weapon with a maximum reach of 2 or shorter.
This is may take on it as well, you can't enchant anything over 2 yards to be a Staff, and always remember to put Powerstones at either end
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:32 AM   #33
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You know, there's nothing about that saying that the decorations have to be precious, just that those are examples. The bigger problem is that an axe is not rod-shaped, and is therefore an invalid subject for the enchantment.
Yeah, that. Would you allow a functional wooden axe (made with Essential Wood and Shatterproof) to be made into a Staff? If not, that aluminum axe isn't going to work either. If so, then the Essential Wood is probably cheaper and better anyway.
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Old 10-17-2016, 06:22 AM   #34
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Make a shark-tooth macuahuitl instead of one with obsidian chips. Or use expensive gemstones as your cutting surface. That should also be valid for the Staff enchantment.
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:07 AM   #35
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Make a shark-tooth macuahuitl instead of one with obsidian chips. Or use expensive gemstones as your cutting surface. That should also be valid for the Staff enchantment.
One of the problems with macuahuitl is that the blades tend to break or fall off when it's used. This isn't really a problem for the weapon, per se, in that they are relatively cheap and easy to make and repair. It is, however, a problem for an enchanted weapon in that the enchantment tends to dissipate when the weapon breaks. Staff is cheap enough to be able to re-enchant such a weapon whenever you needed to, but it would still be inconvenient.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:02 AM   #36
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Doesn't help the OP, they want to do cutting damage and deliver a melee spell.
Then he needs a new Enchantment that changes a rod-like weapon's damage from Crushing to Cutting. I've seen whips (many times) and the occasional martial arts maser's staff or stick do this so it's conceivable.

The staff already does Swing +2 Crush and Mages that have significant investments in ST and skill to gain much from the +50% damage after armor absorption aren't going to be common though. I think the OP may just be trying to get something for nothing.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:37 PM   #37
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Unless you absolutely need a cutting edge on your "sword-staff," a bokken fits the bill perfectly. Its made from wood and wielded just like a katana.
And to be a bit munchkiny, if you sandwiched a katana inside a bokken with the edge exposed...
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:49 PM   #38
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And to be a bit munchkiny, if you sandwiched a katana inside a bokken with the edge exposed...
....it would break people's skin and make shallow cuts only. It'd probably still break the "rod-shaped" clause too.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:53 PM   #39
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Then he needs a new Enchantment that changes a rod-like weapon's damage from Crushing to Cutting. I've seen whips (many times) and the occasional martial arts maser's staff or stick do this so it's conceivable.

The staff already does Swing +2 Crush and Mages that have significant investments in ST and skill to gain much from the +50% damage after armor absorption aren't going to be common though. I think the OP may just be trying to get something for nothing.
Except that Kromm has ruled on this, you make the axe head out of something valuable enough and it counts as part of the Staff.

Heck there's no actual rule that says the Staff actually has to be elongated, it could be a 2 yard sphere as far as the rules care
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:18 PM   #40
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Except that Kromm has ruled on this, you make the axe head out of something valuable enough and it counts as part of the Staff.
Kromm is talking about decorations, embellishments, and specifically powerstones. An axe-head, no matter if you make it out of steel, gold, aluminum, the nails of the True Cross, or hyperdense necronium, isn't a decoration.

Look, if this was possible, the Knights Templar would absolutely already be doing this, ergo it isn't possible in Yrth. This is definitely one of those things that is so obvious it either needs to already exist or be impossible. You can't "invent" something that is as simple as "put an expensive poll on it" because any idiot could have tried this a thousand years before you were born.

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Heck there's no actual rule that says the Staff actually has to be elongated, it could be a 2 yard sphere as far as the rules care
The part that says it has to be a rod is the part that says it has to be a rod. A sphere is not a rod. An axe is not a rod.
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