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Old 11-08-2019, 01:15 PM   #4431
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Of course this makes even trained psi difficult anywhere with a lot of life around. This could range from psi is basically useless anywhere on Earth, to urban greenspaces are now a vital component of national security.
Clever, you could also measure the value of trees by how well they disrupt Psi. Rowan, Oak, Yew, all traditional magic trees. But is this because they blocked Psi, aided it, or something else? Maybe stink weed is the best Psi screen going. Which really killed the popularity of the public parks.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:18 AM   #4432
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Of course this makes even trained psi difficult anywhere with a lot of life around. This could range from psi is basically useless anywhere on Earth, to urban greenspaces are now a vital component of national security.
Prime training areas would include Death Valley, the Empty Quarter of Arabia, the Takla Makan, Antarctica, and the coast of the Red Sea. Wars might even be fought over their possession. ("The Desolation Wars" ... that's catchy.)
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:26 AM   #4433
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Prime training areas would include Death Valley, the Empty Quarter of Arabia, the Takla Makan, Antarctica, and the coast of the Red Sea. Wars might even be fought over their possession. ("The Desolation Wars" ... that's catchy.)
On the other hand, we need to scramble to move all those classified projects and bases out of those barren desert or mountain or polar areas where they are easy clairvoyance targets.
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Old 11-09-2019, 03:21 PM   #4434
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On the other hand, we need to scramble to move all those classified projects and bases out of those barren desert or mountain or polar areas where they are easy clairvoyance targets.
Lesson One - "How To Block Clairvoyance"
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:40 PM   #4435
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Lesson One - "How To Block Clairvoyance"
The simple fact you guys can spin so much analysis off this shows I did something right.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:25 AM   #4436
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This Q6 world diverges in early 1945. Stalin decides that he can't trust either Churchill or Truman. All the present evidence about Stalin's motives ( and I tend to read left leaning historians) is that he planed to attack and conquer the West at a time advantageous to the U.S.S.R. Some historians think he was murdered to prevent WWIII. But in this world Stalin assumes that if he waits the Americans and Brits will strike first.

The early part of the European war is predictable. The Red Army, with the advantage of vast numbers rolls over Western Europe. France, Spain, Gibraltar, Denmark, and the Low Countries, all fall quickly. Sweden and Norway are helpless. Stalin looks ready to do what neither Napoleon or Hitler could do, invade and conquer Britain. Then Fat Man successfully visits Moscow. Stalin and the Politburo are taken out. It's late October 1946.

Centrum wants to prevent total Soviet defeat. The collapse of all totalitarian powers and a world rebuilt on New Deal idealism isn't going to be advantageous to them. The extra damage the UK has taken in this world will only speed the collapse of the British Empire no matter whether the US or the USSR wins.

Homeline sees a world rebuilt along lines of New Deal idealism with no totalitarian powers as a world were Centrum doesn't have easy targets. A quicker fall to colonial empires would make it even harder on Centrum.

The Cabal is mainly eating popcorn on this world.
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Old 11-11-2019, 12:03 PM   #4437
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This Q6 world diverges in early 1945. Stalin decides that he can't trust either Churchill or Truman. All the present evidence about Stalin's motives ( and I tend to read left leaning historians) is that he planed to attack and conquer the West at a time advantageous to the U.S.S.R. Some historians think he was murdered to prevent WWIII. But in this world Stalin assumes that if he waits the Americans and Brits will strike first.
I assume that the Bomb was not used on Japan, because Stalin moved early enough that it was diverted to Europe. Stalin would also want to move while the war in the Pacific was ongoing. The Soviet entry into the Pacific war probably doesn't happen, since resources are needed in Europe. Or does he try and grab as much of Manchuria and Korea as he can, with limited resources?

Does the US make a quick peace with Japan so they can concentrate on Europe? Do they now start sending Lend Lease to the Chinese Nationalists in the (probably vain) hopes they will invade the Soviet Far East?

Over in the Mediterranean, are things quiet because Stalin concentrates on Northern Europe? Or is he trying to move on Greece and Italy also?
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Old 11-11-2019, 01:08 PM   #4438
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I assume that the Bomb was not used on Japan, because Stalin moved early enough that it was diverted to Europe. Stalin would also want to move while the war in the Pacific was ongoing. The Soviet entry into the Pacific war probably doesn't happen, since resources are needed in Europe. Or does he try and grab as much of Manchuria and Korea as he can, with limited resources?
Stalin's plans in the Far East remain unclear in October 1946.

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Does the US make a quick peace with Japan so they can concentrate on Europe?
Not yet. But you can assume the Japanese are hoping for that. The bomb that landed on Moscow, they know was for them. So they are racing to build a bomb. From what I know, they don't have much of a chance. I could be wrong.

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Do they now start sending Lend Lease to the Chinese Nationalists in the (probably vain) hopes they will invade the Soviet Far East?
The Nationalists were always better troops than most folks gave them credit for. With Stalin gone and Soviet aid cut off, several factions that have wanted to be rid of Mao for years the communists aren't united anymore. So the US aid the Nationalists were already getting counts for more.

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Over in the Mediterranean, are things quiet because Stalin concentrates on Northern Europe? Or is he trying to move on Greece and Italy also?
The Soviets decided that those areas could wait until after Germany, France and Spain were taken. With Gibraltar in Soviet hands, they felt the Mediterranean would simply give up. They're now learning better.
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Not yet. But you can assume the Japanese are hoping for that. The bomb that landed on Moscow, they know was for them. So they are racing to build a bomb. From what I know, they don't have much of a chance. I could be wrong.
Unless they get a high-level defector (or out-timer help, which they'd also need in order to be able to deliver it), they don't have a chance, and the next bomb may well fall on Hiroshima. They'd really be better off negotiating a surrender (as the unconditional surrender ultimatum was probably butterflied here), but they might not realize that soon enough.

Does Centrum have any agents that speak Japanese, and can believably pass for someone that would be inclined to help them?
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Unless they get a high-level defector (or out-timer help, which they'd also need in order to be able to deliver it), they don't have a chance, and the next bomb may well fall on Hiroshima. They'd really be better off negotiating a surrender (as the unconditional surrender ultimatum was probably butterflied here), but they might not realize that soon enough.
As I recall, after Nagasaki in OTL the US was set up to produce 2-3 atomic bombs per month indefinitely.

Maybe in this timeline Stalin doesn't know about the bomb program because they had an early security scare, but the tighter security slowed down progress.

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Does Centrum have any agents that speak Japanese, and can believably pass for someone that would be inclined to help them?
Maybe there is a secret illicit anime club in the Interworld Service? Hilarity ensues. (Besides the low quality of Japanese they know, it is 21st century Japanese, not 1940s Japanese. Lot more English loanwords.)
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