Champagne bottle damage?

[WaterAndWindSpirit]

What's the damage on that little incident here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahbBgZMtAQY

[Buzzardo]

0 points. He might not even have a bruise, and he's laughing about it.

Thanks for the video, though. I'll post that elsewhere. :)

[Anaraxes]

Here's a story with some numbers. The ones for champagne bottle mass, pressure, etc., match my own research.

That article comes up with a velocity of 4.73 m/s, or maybe a tenth of a fastball, and a momentum of 7.1 kgm/s, or a bit more than a fastball. Also a bigger and blunter end than a baseball. So maybe a bruise, though fastballs have been known to cause facial fractures and cuts requiring stitches.

The Douglas Cole spreadsheet isn't meant for rockets. An 87 psi chamber pressure with a 14000 grain bullet gave me 0 damage on a quick pass. But my main problem there was finding the place to change the propellant. I might have missed some other spots as well.

[jason taylor]

Speaking of that, in Up Periscope by Robb White a UDT commando ambushed and killed a Japanese officer with a sake bottle he found on a drunken radioman. He was able to do that by aiming sideways at a shrapnel scar in his head to find a weak point where the skull would break.

[malloyd]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Speaking of that, in Up Periscope by Robb White a UDT commando ambushed and killed a Japanese officer with a sake bottle he found on a drunken radioman. He was able to do that by aiming sideways at a shrapnel scar in his head to find a weak point where the skull would break.

Is that even so exceptional? If it doesn't break glass is basically a rock. Hit somebody with a bottle so the forces are mostly along it's length, rather than across the thin sheet and it might well not break.

[RyanW]

Originally Posted by malloyd

Is that even so exceptional? If it doesn't break glass is basically a rock. Hit somebody with a bottle so the forces are mostly along it's length, rather than across the thin sheet and it might well not break.

Action movie: Hit over head with bottle, get knocked down and covered in beer.
Reality: Hit over head with bottle, covered in beer and terrifying scalp lacerations is the best possible outcome. More likely: shattered skull.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by malloyd

Is that even so exceptional? If it doesn't break glass is basically a rock. Hit somebody with a bottle so the forces are mostly along it's length, rather than across the thin sheet and it might well not break.

Oh the bottle broke. It just broke against a previous break making it easier to crack the skull. What was interesting was not that he hurt him but that he did so with an unnatural feeling swing. It was specifically pointed out that he would have preferred to swing downwards but the officer was sober and had spotted him and no chance could be taken of his survival.

The commando put the wrecked stub in the radioman's hand which is kind of a nasty trick but it was war and in any case he kind of had it coming to him for being drunk while manning a radio.

[The Colonel]

IIRC there are stats for bottles as improvised weapons in Martial Arts aren't there?

[Tomsdad]

Also champagne bottles being made of thicker glass than most bottles tend to stay in one piece more often when swung than other similar sized bottles. This will increase their impact damage on people.

Originally Posted by The Colonel

IIRC there are stats for bottles as improvised weapons in Martial Arts aren't there?

Yep "bottle intact" counts as "knobbed club -2 damage", I'd certainly distinguish between full and empty bottles though