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Old 11-30-2017, 10:19 AM   #21
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Default Re: Where are the most detailed & realistic travel rules to be found?

Note that the sidebar "Humping, Tramping, and Yomping" is available in the free preview of High Tech.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:25 AM   #22
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Note that the sidebar "Humping, Tramping, and Yomping" is available in the free preview of High Tech.
Yes. That is what I suggested above (without daring to say it frankly).

Now, I'm sure it is somewhere else. It is a so useful and important rule for those who want a more realistic foot traveling rate ... And, in the old huge debate, we sounded to be dozens ...
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:43 AM   #23
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Wow, thanks a lot for the added information, guys!

So I almost bought a $28 PDF download (on sale at the moment for $21.55) for two paragraphs that mainly tell you to pro-rate per hour using Move/2 with the Basic Set modifiers, and to charge 1 hour per forage attempt. And, those two paragraphs are mercifully available in the preview PDF, which would have had me feeling extra-silly if I found out after I bought the PDF. Hehe!

(BTW I do have the original edition of High Tech somewhere, so I appreciate what is probably in 4e High Tech and will probably get it eventually anyway, but still.)

So essentially, this is what I've already been doing since converting my TFT campaign to GURPS in 1987, but with the new idea of using Move/2 as a base marching rate. Hmm.

And, thanks very much to mlangsdorf for the link to the houserule travel system web page. Free and at $14/per paragraph, a $500 value! ;-)
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:44 AM   #24
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After a little research, I read that there was Long Term Fatigue rules in After the End. Can someone who owns those books tell wether it does affect hiking abilities - and wether there are more interesting rules for traveling (it might)?
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:06 AM   #25
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The New World doesn't introduce any new rules for hiking and all the LFP rules are for climate and camping.
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:51 AM   #26
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Thank you very much.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:09 PM   #27
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Default Re: Where are the most detailed & realistic travel rules to be found?

The long term fatigue rules in "The Last Gasp" could be applied to hiking, though.

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Old 12-01-2017, 08:24 PM   #28
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Anyway, you may want to take a look at them:
http://westmarchsaga.wikia.com/wiki/...on_House_Rules
I like your write-up, thanks!

One question. In your example in "Sighting and Visibility", (Lenia is on the beach at Cape Shad...), why can she see for 9 miles? Shouldn't it be 3?
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:02 AM   #29
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The long term fatigue rules in "The Las Gasp" could be applied to hiking, though.
The Last Gap, in Pyramid, Alternative GURPS 2. That's it! Thank you very much.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:43 AM   #30
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The long term fatigue rules in "The Last Gasp" could be applied to hiking, though.
Originally I had long-term movement rules integrated in, but I was never satisfied with them. The second-by-second Last Gasp never integrated well with longer term movement.

The concept is sound, but a design will need to watch out for edge cases, which is where the original effort foundered. High HT, High Running or Hiking Skill, etc.

Might be mitigated by things like "Trained HT," where the direct impact of high skill (I have Running-25!) is mitigated as a matter of points spent.

Then again, if you've paid for HT 15 and Running-25, maybe you SHOULD be able to cover a 100 mile hike in 10 hours and be chipper and fine at the end.
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