06-28-2013, 12:15 AM | #501 |
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Re: The 2013 e23 Releases and Speculation Thread
re: "Optional Rules"
I feel empowered to regard any rule as optional in a play-pretend book I buy, even if I tend to take the advice of the editors and writers into account. The fact that Pyramid is mostly composed of optional rules doesn't in any way diminish what it includes, since we don't enter a contract to obey anyone at the table when you buy a dang rulebook. The structure of the rules is more monkeybars than cage. Last edited by Dammann; 06-28-2013 at 01:29 AM. |
06-28-2013, 01:47 AM | #502 |
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Re: The 2013 e23 Releases and Speculation Thread
*peeks up from his Thaumatology issues of Pyramid and sets aside his Cabal project*
Right, people don't think of Pyramid as "new GURPS releases?" I can see where they're coming from, actually. I value Pyramid. It helps me a ton, though it can be kind of a pain to sift through everything sometimes, but I've been slowly compiling, for example, a personal Ultra-Tech 2. There's also some surprisingly good stuff in the old Pyramid archives, which many of you don't have (I still think they need to find a way to sell that access to newbies). But a Pyramid article is small. It has to be. It covers a little snippet of something, like a single template for DF, or a single conversion, or a small bit of a setting. I'm eagerly awaiting the Madness Dossier and GURPS Vehicles, and while I've seen pyramid articles that are sort of a stopgap regarding the second, and the first could have been a pyramid article in its original conception (I'm amazed those six pages managed to inspire me so completely!), a more complete treatment will be well appreciated. I think the problem isn't that there hasn't been any GURPS, it's that there's been less (we used to have one pyramid and one GURPS PDF per month. Now we just have pyramid), and that the less is necessarily more bite-sized, while we miss the more thorough treatment of things (Also, I suspect a lot of people just don't buy Pyramid because... um... I'm sure they have a reason).
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06-28-2013, 02:34 AM | #503 |
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For what it's worth I'm sorry I misrepresented Kromms post as implying Pyramid was any less 'official' than any other GURPS product.
I still can't get the Dungeon Fantasy specific distinction out of my mind, (and I don't think I'm alone it that). The source of Kromms original quote was in response to a question as to why DF11: Power-Ups, didn't include the Justiciar or Mystic Knight; and the response includes a suggestion for getting those templates 'official' status. I can't see how that does anything but imply that something published in Pyramid is 'less official' that something published in a GURPS Dungeon Fantasy product. I also don't really see why there has to be a distinction, in this respect, for DF (along with Action and MH) as 'self contained lines', not to want to reference Pyramid. I own Pyramid's 36 and 50, both of which are dedicated GURPS Dungeon Fantasy issues, both of which have more GURPS DF pages than DF4 or DF12. Why do we need the distinction that anything in those 2 Pyramid volumes is any less a part of the Dungeon Fantasy line than Sages or Ninjas? From that distinction, however minor or specific, came my misunderstanding of how 'official' something publish in Pyramid was intended to be. |
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Here's the list of new (not reprint) In Nomine releases over the last three years: Now, what were you saying about a lack of support for your game, again? Its lack of Munchkin, TOON, or In Nomine content, for one.
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06-28-2013, 08:49 PM | #505 |
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Looks like SJ Games is going on a break next week. I'm expecting e23 to auto-post that week's product, though, barring any glitches...
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06-28-2013, 10:24 PM | #506 |
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Really? That'd be a neat trick... I wonder what it'll pick!
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06-28-2013, 10:37 PM | #507 |
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Hot Lead, I should think.
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Or if we're just making pointless "Children in Africa are STARVING!" comparisons, I could point out the complete lack of support for Legends of the Wulin, Changeling: the Dreaming or Nobilis, especially in Pyramid
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