04-22-2018, 10:46 PM | #21 | |
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Re: 2300 ad tl
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Cold climate clothing with 8 hour heating elements->much better battery tech. Pressure-Suits with 15kg weight->much lighter Biomonitor, a 0.5kg multisensor->much lighter than you could get with 1980s tech specially the edibility of plants. Binoculars with autostabilize+thermal+nightvision in one 1kg->much more capable and light. Farseer with rangefinder and 50 times magnification in 1 kg->much more capable and light. All the satellites->really cheap and light. Thus my view of the general tech level being about TL9 with the noted exceptions of weapons tech(TL 10 available), computer tech(tl 7+1), communicators(TL 8) and thrusters and stutter warp being maybe 10^ |
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04-22-2018, 11:00 PM | #22 |
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Re: 2300 ad tl
Stutterwarp is completely superscience, and can be what TL you'd like it to be. From memory of when it was first invented in the 2300AD timeline, I'd call it TL9^, with the most recent versions being early TL10^.
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04-23-2018, 10:58 AM | #23 | |||
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If my boxes were unpacked, I'd have looked it up. Quote:
Once Africa started to stabilize, a little, people started to find more. Most cell phones have at least some, in them. However, at the time, the expense of the tantalum for the stutterwarp coils was so great that nobody but the odd billionaire could afford a private starship. Discovery of tantalum on a colony world automatically meant it would be profitable to settle, and the find frequently triggered a gold rush. Quote:
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04-23-2018, 12:16 PM | #24 | |
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There are freighters in the "Ships of the French Arm" that only cost few million Livre. English BC-4-class Cargo Carrier is Lv3,420,000 German Krupp 821 Cargo Carrier is Lv3,337,000 and so on. And those are "new" prices. It is hard to compare the exact price equivalence in our money, but one method is comparing crew salaries. A crew member of s starship is listed as having a salary from 2,000 to 4,000 Lv/month. Today sailors from Finland get about 1,500-2,000 Euro/month. So an equivalence of say 2 eur=1lv seems approximately right magnitude for that. A small new freighter today is order of magnitude 10 million Eur(=5 mil Lv). So one could say that the price of a small sea freighter seems comparable to the price of a small space freighter in 2300AD. There are quite many small shipping companies in our world today. So the price of starships should not be out of reach for smaller companies in 2300AD either if there is cargo to be moved that pays reasonable shipping costs. The prices given for shipping cargo in the adventurers guide are however a bit low given the ship prices+crew prices and cargo capacities of the star ships. |
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04-23-2018, 01:17 PM | #25 |
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Re: 2300 ad tl
The 2300ad rpg came out in 1986, but the first cell phone came out in 1983 in the U.S.
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04-23-2018, 01:27 PM | #26 | |
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In any case, the notion didn't make it into the 2300 AD setting.
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04-25-2018, 01:47 PM | #27 | |
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04-25-2018, 06:58 PM | #28 | |
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Hmm. Arguable.
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04-25-2018, 07:00 PM | #29 |
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At thsi point in time it looks more reasonable than French Empire. :)
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04-25-2018, 10:29 PM | #30 |
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Re: 2300 ad tl
I would also avoid treating today's tech as being the standard measure for GURPS TLs. We've gone further down the road of miniaturised and massively networked computers than GURPS expected.
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