01-03-2013, 12:34 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Some questions regarding the Mate Card
Read through the rules and the FAQ, and still had some things I wanted to clarify on combats that include the Mate card.
The Mate card is like a wandering monster, in that you need to deal with it separately. For example, if you are a Wizard and Charm the original monster, the Mate card is not charmed as well. But if you are facing a Floating Nose and it's Mate, and use a potion of Halitosis, would both the original card and it's Mate be killed? Or would it be one card = one monster killed? Since the Mate card is not exactly a monster, it seems like you can not target it with Monster Enhancers directly. Instead it duplicates any enhancers from the original card, regardless of order played. So, for example, if a Wizard Charms the original monster, then the Mate card will have any Enhancers played before Charm was used, but after that point, no new Enhancers can be played on the Mate. Or can Enhancers be played on the Mate card directly, which would allow players to have an Enhancer on the Mate card that was not affecting the original monster. Also, can abilities like Charm target, or items like the Pollymorph Potion target the Mate card? In short, all the questions are to see if what differences there are in dealing with a Mate card instead of a the standard monster card. Sorry that the formatting is not the best, had to rush the post during break |
01-03-2013, 12:59 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
I'll be interested to see what the official answers to these questions are, but I'll just say that, for my part, I sidestep all those complexities by figuring that, since the original monster and the Mate are exactly the same, if something is going to take one of them out of the combat, I have it take the Mate out every time, to avoid the oddity (and bookkeeping) of having a monster that is defined in terms of another monster that is no longer present.
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01-03-2013, 01:15 PM | #3 | ||
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
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Another FAQ answer also points this out more directly, I just need to find it again. |
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01-03-2013, 01:52 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
Oh, I know you CAN get rid of the original monster and keep the mate. I just don't work it that way in games I play, since getting rid of the mate has the same effect on the monster's combat score, and makes things less confusing than getting rid of the monster it is a copy of.
In other words, I see the issues you are trying to get answers to, but I personally avoid them by always ditching the mate instead of the original monster when you are eliminating a single monster. |
01-03-2013, 02:54 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
I am thinking the way are supposed to do it, if you have a card that removes one of the monsters, you use it to remove the mate, not the original.
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01-03-2013, 03:01 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Macungie, PA
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
Yes, since it simplifies things immensely, for bookkeeping purposes. Also, any card that modifies a Monster should only be played on the original Monster, not the Mate card. Mate represents a Monster, but is not a Monster card.
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01-03-2013, 03:25 PM | #7 | ||
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
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Respectfully, I am not looking for the easiest way to deal with the combat, but to understand what all the options are. According to the rules, what can I do or not do? |
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01-03-2013, 03:49 PM | #8 |
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
Well, MunchkinMan says that Enhancers and other monster modifying cards should only be played on the original monster, so there's that question answered.
Which I guess raises the question of whether, in a case of elimination of one monster, he wants to make it official that the Mate is always required to be the one to go. If it is an option to eliminate the original monster and leave the Mate, and just cope with the harder bookkeeping, AND Enhancers and other monster modifiers can't be played on the Mate, then I imagine people generally WOULD rather ditch the original monster, since dealing with the bookkeeping challenge seems a small price to pay for leaving a "monster" that cannot have any further modifications played on it... |
01-03-2013, 04:22 PM | #9 | |
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
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In other words: it's your game, so do what you want, but the way you're describing it makes a lot of extra work for yourself and strikes me as pretty dumb. Respectfully, of course.
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01-03-2013, 04:32 PM | #10 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Some questions regarding the Mate Card
So then, if one WERE to remove the original monster, one COULD then play monster modifying cards on the Mate? Erik seemed to be saying that you couldn't, which might provide a reason to leave the Mate card instead of the original monster, since then it couldn't be modified any further.
Not sure why I'm trying so hard to clarify this, since I always have, and likely always will, play all modifiers on the original, and remove the Mate when I have a chance to remove one, just for simplicity's sake. Guess my mind just likes to have stuff all neat and tidy even when the information isn't going to be used by me. |
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