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Old 01-24-2012, 05:46 PM   #11
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Has anyone ever statted (in GURPS 3rd edition) the B-24 Liberator?
I posted it here about two years ago:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=66397
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:00 AM   #12
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Boy, I should have waited another day to post this design ...
No problem! I see you've edited, that's fine now.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:54 PM   #13
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Subassemblies: Heavy Small Wheeled chassis +3, Medium Weapon turret +2, ten off-road wheels +1.
Ten wheels, or eight wheels?


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I posted it here about two years ago:
Egads, has it already been two years?? It seems like not that long ago!
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:02 PM   #14
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Ten wheels, or eight wheels?
The wheels on the two rear axles are doubled up, so it's got 2 wheels in the front and eight in the rear. Best picture I can find showing that.

In case of confusion, there was a 6x4 and 8x8 SdKfz 231, built on the same basic hull but with quite different suspension. Also, the front of the 6x4 became the back of the 8x8.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:34 PM   #15
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Ten wheels, or eight wheels?
Six wheels. To save time when writing up vehicles, I use a similar vehicle. In this case, the BA-10 ... which had 10 wheels. Fixed.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:36 PM   #16
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The wheels on the two rear axles are doubled up, so it's got 2 wheels in the front and eight in the rear. Best picture I can find showing that.
Hmm. It had been a mistake on my part but seeing that picture now I wonder ...
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:55 PM   #17
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Six wheels. To save time when writing up vehicles, I use a similar vehicle. In this case, the BA-10 ... which had 10 wheels. Fixed.
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Hmm. It had been a mistake on my part but seeing that picture now I wonder ...
Yeah. I would personally have written it up as six, and assumed that the double rear wheels were just part of what made it off-road wheels, but I figured that was your reasoning. Of course, you've made a lot more vehicles than I have. Barring an official rule turning up somewhere, I'd likely follow your lead.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:05 AM   #18
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I posted it here about two years ago:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=66397
Thank you -- missed it first time around.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:48 AM   #19
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Yeah. I would personally have written it up as six, and assumed that the double rear wheels were just part of what made it off-road wheels, but I figured that was your reasoning. Of course, you've made a lot more vehicles than I have. Barring an official rule turning up somewhere, I'd likely follow your lead.
I think the double wheels count as two wheels each; while I don't have an official GURPS vehicle to point to, an "18 wheeler" truck counts each double wheel separately.

Also, I thought we were talking about this:

http://hsfeatures.com/sdkfz231gp_1.htm
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:01 AM   #20
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I think the double wheels count as two wheels each; while I don't have an official GURPS vehicle to point to, an "18 wheeler" truck counts each double wheel separately.
Right. I should have looked at more photos and not just at the 6x4 designation. I'll fix the write-up.

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http://hsfeatures.com/sdkfz231gp_1.htm
That's in Iron Cross. It was the result of the poor off-road performance of the earlier SdzKfz 231.
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