08-30-2018, 06:35 AM | #11 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
|
Re: Animals and Perception
One approach you can take that doesn't require any new stats or types of rules is to adjust the odds of the roll (either adding or subtracting to the number of dice rolled or to the stat in question) based on how challenging the perception task is given the 'perceiver's suite of senses and reasoning power, with extreme cases leading to automatic failure or success.
A slime can't detect an illusion at all, so no effect. A cow can detect it but can't reasonably be expected to disbelieve it, so generally no chance to disbelieve. A leopard has outstanding night vision and smell, so maybe it rolls to search for hiding critters with a +4 or +8 bonus to IQ (or rolls 1 or 2 fewer dice). And so forth. The published game provides little guidance as to how this sort of thing should be adjudicated, but at least in this case you would be working within the basic structure of the rules rather than adding a new layer of stats or whatever. |
08-30-2018, 12:14 PM | #12 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
|
Re: Animals and Perception
You can always roll vs adjDX. For most 'did I spot this' as opposed to 'did I recognize this' issues, dexterity and perception are pretty closely correlated (there's a reason we talk about eye-hand coordination).
|
09-01-2018, 06:23 PM | #13 |
Join Date: Jun 2012
|
Re: Animals and Perception
Why not just assign an animal Alertness and or Acute (sense) if it is in the nature of the animal.
A dog might have Acute Smell (works like Acute Hearing but only on scent based tasks). The dog would still have a low IQ for most things, but would roll against IQ 9 or higher when making this check. For example: a dumb mutt might roll vs. IQ 9 while a dog the equivalent of Rin-Tin-Tin or Lassie might roll vs. IQ 15 - 20 (or whatever the GM feels is right). |
09-02-2018, 03:47 AM | #14 | |
Join Date: May 2015
|
Re: Animals and Perception
Quote:
|
|
09-02-2018, 08:47 PM | #15 | |
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Alsea, OR
|
Re: Animals and Perception
Quote:
a LOT of TFT play was, and is likely to remain, GM-less solo play, with no authority to make those calls.Thinking of it solely as a GM issue ignores a rather large part of the existing player use. |
|
09-02-2018, 10:39 PM | #16 |
Untagged
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
|
Re: Animals and Perception
Yep. I didn't see what sub-forum this was from. I know absolutely nothing about TFT. I deleted my post.
Edited to add, "Sorry."
__________________
Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check. Last edited by Flyndaran; 09-03-2018 at 11:34 AM. |
09-06-2018, 11:34 AM | #17 |
Join Date: Jul 2018
|
Re: Animals and Perception
If we give unspecified conditional bonuses to races, like +1 damage with ax/mace or +3 DX when shooting and throwing, I have no problem giving animals bonuses to special actions. The easiest would be +X to IQ-rolls when "being true to its nature". That is a predator being out hunting in its preferred terrain or a guard dog doings its job in a city. And noticing stuff is something almost all creatures has as part of their nature, but in different ways.
This way we don't need more talents or an extra attribute. We don't give Halflings a specific talent even though the ability could easily be converted in to Missile Weapons and Thrown Weapons. And we don't give the halflings an extra super script to DX for ranged weapons or a new attribute for ranged attacks. So let's stay with the established rules we have and avoid making up new ones if the old ones can be recycled. :-) |
09-07-2018, 10:47 AM | #18 |
Join Date: Jul 2018
|
Re: Animals and Perception
I will throw my two cents worth into the ring with some house rules. Since they are house rules, I posted them over in the House Rules section. Here they are:
Perception Rolls (Including Non-Humanoid Creatures) http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=159547
__________________
"What you don't know can't hurt y ... OUCH!" |
|
|