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03-26-2019, 08:10 PM | #52 | |
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Then there's the issue of whether humans are intelligent enough or have sufficient context to understand what is being studied. Just because something is scientifically study-able in principle doesn't automatically mean that it is in practice.
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03-26-2019, 08:16 PM | #53 | |
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Another reason I detest Subjective Reality is that, taken to its natural conclusion, it creates peculiar moral inversions for the characters in a story or game. For ex, let's say that a new kind of evil, murderous monster becomes real if a certain percentage of the population either believes it in, or worse, are just familiar with it. OK, we've just make the book burners from Ray Bradbury the good guys. Not the ones from Fahrenheit 451 so much, as the ones from The Martian Chronicles. The ones who tried to stamp out fictional stories. If that sort of Subjective Reality applies, there could still be a moral place for fiction, but it would need to be very tame, if you see what I'm saying.
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03-27-2019, 07:00 AM | #54 |
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The same reason I dislike stories that put real witches in Salem. Congratulations, you have just justified 20 murders.
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The study of quantum mechanics was inconceivable to science more or less prior to the twentieth century, and now it's a huge field of inquiry. The concepts it contains seem outrageous: point-particles that have mass and angular momentum; quarks cannot exist in isolation; a quantum system exists in multiple states simultaneously until observed. Yet science has found ways to describe and define these things in ways we can understand and test experimentally. |
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03-27-2019, 08:08 AM | #56 | |
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By definition stating the possibility of a crime is not justifying the false accusation of it. There is a such thing as contract killing but I have no evidence that leads me to believe that you are in fact a contract killer.
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03-27-2019, 12:00 PM | #57 | |
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For a counterexample, there's SCP-2950. It appears to be an extremely comfortable chair. Testing has been suspended because its primary effect is simply to be so comfortable that no one wants to get up. That's what the file says, anyway. Unless you're the one person in the Foundation (or their counterpart in the Serpent's Hand) who is permitted to know the truth - that 2950 is whatever the most people who know about it imagine it to be. When the Foundation first learned of it, they had a document indicating that it was a Keter-level threat, potentially responsible for an XK-class End-of-World scenario. And so it was. They were saved when the librarians of the Hand managed to convince the O-5 Council of the truth regarding 2950, at which time all but two people who knew about it were given amnestics and false memories regarding the item. Not all fiction has to be destroyed to protect us from 2950, just any document describing it as dangerous (other than the one document in Foundation control, and one held by the Serpent's Hand, for the benefit of the latest poor soul required to help contain it - a document kept locked away by a memetic cognitohazard that keeps anyone not inoculated from reading it). There are, I believe, a few other items in custody that work similarly, but the Chair was the first thing that sprang to my mind.
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