Gimme your Perks! - Page 3

Captain-Captain · 06-27-2006, 05:51 PM

Based on the official examples, that's how Perks work. Alchohol Tolerance doesn't help you occasionally when you are drinking. It works EVERY time you drink.

Penetrating voice gives a +3 for anyone to hear when you want to be heard.
some of the time? No. Always, or at the character's discretion. I cited Weapon Bond already.

PK · 06-27-2006, 06:02 PM

Weapon Bond: +1 to (let's say) Broadsword skill when using one specific, unique sword. Not +2 to your Broadsword skill whenever you use the skill!

Penetrating Voice: +1 to your Intimidation skill only when you surprise someone by sneaking up on them and yelling at them. Not +2 to your Intimidation skill whenever you decide to use the skill.

Bonuses from Perks are for specific uses of the skill in rare or difficult to achieve situations. This is why Weapon Bond does not say, "You have +2 to one weapon skill, but only when you're using it to wield a weapon," because that's a crock. That's like buying Insubstantiality and taking the limitation, "Accessibility, Only to become Insubstantial".

If you want +2 to your Intimidation skill for all uses of the skill, then you raise your skill by 2 levels. You don't justify a +2 universal bonus to the skill in a 1-point Perk. Or maybe you do in your game. Heck, why stop there?

New Perks:

Sexy Face: +2 to Sex Appeal skill, only when you're trying to make someone attracted to you.

Axe-Throwing Arm: +2 to Thrown Weapon (Axe/Mace), only when you're throwing an axe or mace at a target.

Adjusted to the Saddle: +2 to Riding (Horse), only when actually riding a horse.

etc.

Fnordianslip · 06-27-2006, 06:03 PM

Resisting drinking isn't a skill, it's a rare use of a HT roll. A +3 to being heard is NOT an always on + to other people's hearing rolls, just when you're yelling over a crowd. These are all fairly rare circumstances. Fur for example allows an "always on" immunity to sunburn. Handy, always on, but rare. It's the same as saying he always makes hit HT roll to resist a rare, vaugely annoying condition. All of those are much, much less useful than a +2 to intimidation whenever I decide to do it face to face.

EDIT: Preach on Rev! Oh yeah, and the Rev said it more succinctly than I did.

Not another shrubbery · 06-27-2006, 06:07 PM

The circumstances are supposed to be commensurately less common, the greater the bonus. Frinst: Weapon Bond is not a +1 to <weapon skill>, but a +1 effective skill to one specific weapon only; the bonus from Penetrating Voice does not apply to a skill, but to a particularly uncommon situation, and so on.

Gudiomen · 06-27-2006, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atreyu_Hibiki

Stolen from here.

Someone stole from me! Someone actualy stole from me! Nobody ever stole from me before! I feel all happy and mushy inside :P

Goofy
Much like Pitiable, you get +2 reactions in situations where you look comical and inept, people usually underestimate you and deem you less capable than being serious than you may actually be. As a side effect people will rarely trust you to serious busyness like PR or diplomacy. You may be the court (or office) jester though.

Captain-Captain · 06-27-2006, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev_Pee_Kitty

Weapon Bond: +1 to (let's say) Broadsword skill when using one specific, unique sword. Not +2 to your Broadsword skill whenever you use the skill!

Penetrating Voice: +1 to your Intimidation skill only when you surprise someone by sneaking up on them and yelling at them. Not +2 to your Intimidation skill whenever you decide to use the skill.

PLUS THREE TO BE HEARD WHENEVER THE CHARACTER WANTS TO BE HEARD.

Fnordianslip · 06-27-2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain-Captain

PLUS THREE TO BE HEARD WHENEVER THE CHARACTER WANTS TO BE HEARD.

Jeez man, calm down. That bonus is only in a very specific circumstance, not an overall add to the skill in almost every circumstance. If there were a skill, Wanting to Be Heard (HT/Hard), then yeah, that perk would be a point crock. But that isn't a skill, nor would it be useful that often if it was.

transmetahuman · 06-27-2006, 11:06 PM

Maybe the Intimidating Appearance could be balanced by looking at the negative effects - you look intimidating, so people will tend not to relax in your presence, confide in you, etc... (-2 to reaction rolls in those circumstances? -2 to Diplomacy?)

Not another shrubbery · 06-27-2006, 11:06 PM

It's demonstrative ;)

sir_pudding · 06-28-2006, 03:02 AM

Stern Looks: +1 to Intimidation towards people who are predisposed to respect your opinion when you disaprove of them.

06-27-2006, 05:51 PM	#21
Captain-Captain Join Date: Aug 2004	Re: Gimme your Perks! Based on the official examples, that's how Perks work. Alchohol Tolerance doesn't help you occasionally when you are drinking. It works EVERY time you drink. Penetrating voice gives a +3 for anyone to hear when you want to be heard. some of the time? No. Always, or at the character's discretion. I cited Weapon Bond already. __________________ ...().0...0() .../..........\ -/......O.....\- ...VVVVVVV ..^^^^^^^ A clock running two hours slow has the correct time zero times a day.

06-27-2006, 06:02 PM	#22
PK Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dobbstown Sane Asylum	Re: Gimme your Perks! Weapon Bond: +1 to (let's say) Broadsword skill when using one specific, unique sword. Not +2 to your Broadsword skill whenever you use the skill! Penetrating Voice: +1 to your Intimidation skill only when you surprise someone by sneaking up on them and yelling at them. Not +2 to your Intimidation skill whenever you decide to use the skill. Bonuses from Perks are for specific uses of the skill in rare or difficult to achieve situations. This is why Weapon Bond does not say, "You have +2 to one weapon skill, but only when you're using it to wield a weapon," because that's a crock. That's like buying Insubstantiality and taking the limitation, "Accessibility, Only to become Insubstantial". If you want +2 to your Intimidation skill for all uses of the skill, then you raise your skill by 2 levels. You don't justify a +2 universal bonus to the skill in a 1-point Perk. Or maybe you do in your game. Heck, why stop there? New Perks: Sexy Face: +2 to Sex Appeal skill, only when you're trying to make someone attracted to you. Axe-Throwing Arm: +2 to Thrown Weapon (Axe/Mace), only when you're throwing an axe or mace at a target. Adjusted to the Saddle: +2 to Riding (Horse), only when actually riding a horse. etc. __________________ Reverend Pee Kitty of the Order Malkavian-Dobbsian (Twitter) (LJ) MyGURPS: My house rules and *GURPS* resources. #SJGamesLive: I answered questions about *GURPS After the End* and more! {Watch Video} - {Read Transcript}

06-27-2006, 06:03 PM	#23
Fnordianslip Join Date: Dec 2005	Re: Gimme your Perks! Resisting drinking isn't a skill, it's a rare use of a HT roll. A +3 to being heard is NOT an always on + to other people's hearing rolls, just when you're yelling over a crowd. These are all fairly rare circumstances. Fur for example allows an "always on" immunity to sunburn. Handy, always on, but rare. It's the same as saying he always makes hit HT roll to resist a rare, vaugely annoying condition. All of those are much, much less useful than a +2 to intimidation whenever I decide to do it face to face. EDIT: Preach on Rev! Oh yeah, and the Rev said it more succinctly than I did.

06-27-2006, 06:07 PM	#24
Not another shrubbery Join Date: Aug 2004	Re: Gimme your Perks! The circumstances are supposed to be commensurately less common, the greater the bonus. Frinst: Weapon Bond is not a +1 to <weapon skill>, but a +1 effective skill to one specific weapon only; the bonus from Penetrating Voice does not apply to a skill, but to a particularly uncommon situation, and so on.

06-27-2006, 11:06 PM	#28
transmetahuman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA	Re: Gimme your Perks! Maybe the Intimidating Appearance could be balanced by looking at the negative effects - you look intimidating, so people will tend not to relax in your presence, confide in you, etc... (-2 to reaction rolls in those circumstances? -2 to Diplomacy?)

06-27-2006, 11:06 PM	#29
Not another shrubbery Join Date: Aug 2004	Re: Gimme your Perks! It's demonstrative ;)

06-28-2006, 03:02 AM	#30
sir_pudding Wielder of Smart Pants Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ventura CA	Re: Gimme your Perks! Stern Looks: +1 to Intimidation towards people who are predisposed to respect your opinion when you disaprove of them.