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Old 08-26-2019, 03:36 AM   #1
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I'm enjoying Hexogram #2, but was puzzled by a couple of things about the article on Astrologers:

1) It is suggested that the astrologer's guild subjects aspirants to a test to rank them and set dues, but then nothing is said about how that test is abstracted (i.e., as some sort of prerequisite or die roll) nor how it relates to the three astrology related 'jobs' on the next page.

2) There is lots of mention of astrological forecasts, including the possibility that they might be effective in some cases, but nothing is said about how they are done, what they might cost or how you might determine whether or not they contain useful information. Basically, it isn't obvious what, if anything, astrology 'does' for people other than wizards who have undergone the alignment ritual.

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Old 09-02-2019, 11:17 PM   #2
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Answering #2 first:


In the context of the article, I don't think horoscopes per se are good for anything but therapy and reassurance, or (with more math and observation, and less psychology) seeing what's in store for wizards linked to the cosmic flux.

When I wrote "...the astrologer's fortune for a notable client proved spot-on", I wasn't suggesting that the stars actually told the client's future. More, a combination of luck (the vague hints and allegory in the horoscope meshed with real events) and the astrologer's ability to read his or her client's mood and relationships.

A pop-psychology horoscope might take half a work day, including an interview (perhaps over a pot of tea and biscuits), consulting books for interesting sounding phrases, and writing a report. Cost would be perhaps $10, $15, and $50 for the three grades. (With 6 - 10 readings a week, this can result in a lot of cash. But an astrologer has a lot of expenses: Tea and other refreshments, books, ink and paper or parchment, impressive robes, and bribes to servants who might provide gossip that can be worked into the fortune.)

The more rigorous "predicting the pattern" requires (as mentioned in the article) observation time plus half a day of computation. More straight forward work, without creative input. Perhaps $30 for a four week forecast. (It would be less, but spending a good part of a night on a roof doesn't come cheap!)

As for #1 . . . sorry, that could have been clearer! The outcome of the tests, and the rewarding of the orrey, depends on the applicant's qualifications for the job. If they have the qualifications for Court Astrologer, they get the neat gold pin and referrals to deep-pocketed clients.

I hope that helps.
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Old 09-03-2019, 06:55 AM   #3
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What IQ level is Astrology?

ITL 36 IQ 8 Talents: "3 IQ points to learn: Artist/Calligrapher, Astrologer, Lawyer;"

ITL 43 IQ 13 Talents: "This ability also takes in astronomy and astrology."
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Old 09-03-2019, 07:40 AM   #4
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I took the IQ 8 talent to be a kind of performance-level skill. Cookbook astrology, like your dilettante aunt might learn, with some stargazing skills worked in.


I imagine that the IQ 13 Mathematician includes that, plus more rigorous observational stuff, because it is simply a good thing to know, job-opportunity-wise.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:21 AM   #5
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What's the best talent for the (short) career demon summoner?
  • Naturalist
  • Scholar
  • Astrology
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Old 09-03-2019, 01:39 PM   #6
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I don't think Mathematician includes everything in the 3-point Astrology talent, it just potentially has some overlap.

Like video games, and computer science.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:13 PM   #7
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I don't think Mathematician includes everything in the 3-point Astrology talent, it just potentially has some overlap.

Like video games, and computer science.
I would guess Mathematics would be geometry and algebra specifically to address how the stars and planets are fixed and fluxed in the sky. Those Astrologers who don't know Mathematics would have to consult already developed mathematical 'star' chart to determine what happens when a certain planet is in retrograde. A Mathematician learned Astrologer can compute his own chart by doing the math on the spot and can correct any math errors quickly.

So when it says Mathematics Talent takes in the field of Astronomy and Astrology, it provides formulas for circles, parabolas, acceleration, and a whole slew of concepts that can be directly applied to those two fields. I would also think that since Astronomy and Astrology put those formulas to use in a more interesting way than accounting, examples and anecdotes are probably brought up more often by the Math Professors to liven up their courses.

Therefore my House Rule would be to allow a Mathemetician to buy Astrology Talent at 1 IQ point. And he can apply the accounting bonus to his business.

Also note that the Astrologer has to be at least familiar with the layout of the planets and stars that are known in his part of Cidri and probably the whole solar system. God forbid he gate to another world where the stars are in different locations or there is one less planet or three moons.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:46 PM   #8
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Astronomy + instant transport (or at least instant comms) gives you the relative latitude and longitude of every spot on the map.
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And that is just western astrology. Eastern astrology with its "year of the ____" adds a whole new angle to things.
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Old 09-04-2019, 05:20 AM   #10
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Astronomy + instant transport (or at least instant comms) gives you the relative latitude and longitude of every spot on the map.
Astronomy and longitude don't interact that way without an accurate chronometer.
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