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Likewise, much of the scare about "crack babies" in the 1980s and 1990s actually turned out to just be the normal ill-effects of poor prenatal nutrition rather than anything specific to crack cocaine. Quote:
It's not unreasonable since the standard Addiction disad assumes that the drug is Illegal, and Legal versions reduce the cost of the addiction by 5 points. Likewise, Alcoholism (which scientists just treat as another Addiction) gets a -5 modifier for being Insidious and having long-term damage to health. So, a drug with particularly nasty effects might merit an additional -5 point enhancement. Quote:
For traits which are triggered by an addiction (e.g., Paranoia and Berserk which are only triggered when you use PCP), then there could be a version of the Link enhancement which applies to disadvantages. It makes sense for there to be an enhancement because not only do your linked disads trigger all at once, but they also kick in when you're physically or mentally impaired by the addiction. Finally, it's arguable that addictions to some drugs are underpriced in GURPS. For example, if you're an alcoholic you spend much of your time Drunk (-2 to most attributes). If you were to take -2 to your attributes across the board, then that would be a -120 point reduction (-40 each for -2 DX and IQ, -20 each for -2 HT and ST). Assuming you only spend half your waking hours Drunk, have a few hours where you're only partially under the influence and that you have some ability to resist your addiction beyond just control rolls, let's call it a -24 point disad, not that far from the "illegal" version of Alcoholism. But, real life alcoholics don't just stay drunk. They might hallucinate, black out (treat as a variant of hallucination), pass out, or even accidentally kill themselves (particularly likely when a severe alcoholic goes into rehab, loses their tolerance and then binges based on their previous level of tolerance - e.g., Amy Winehouse). So, that ought to be worth even more points. What's the price of a disadvantage where you spend half your time Hallucinating? |
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10-13-2013, 07:32 AM | #62 | |
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Things like Meth and Krokodil are usually cooked by addicts, many of whom are ignorant of any other aspect of chemistry. Hence the more spectacular stories of evil side effects, explosions, fires and so forth. So, if someone wanted to learn the Meth Cook technique I'd allow it as an Average technique which defaulted to Chemistry-2 or Pharmacy (Synthetic)-0, or maybe Streetwise-6. Success results in drug that is as "good as store bought." Ordinary failure results in anything from poor yields to wasted ingredients, to impure but useable-if-you're-not-picky drugs. More fundamental techniques count as Hard techniques or require actual base skill. For example, LSD synthesis might be a Hard technique or require actual Chemistry or Pharmacy skill. That implies actual drug labs with attendant increase in cost. My understanding is that Krokodil appeals to folks who don't have a whole lot of cash. Eventually the situation will be somewhat like the situation with meth in the U.S. - initially mostly addicts making their own, then larger drug cartels shipping in slightly more expensive but slightly purer product. |
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10-13-2013, 07:41 AM | #63 | |
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There's pretty good evidence that propensity towards certain addictions is at least partially hereditary. There certainly appears to be a hereditary component to alcoholism. |
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10-13-2013, 07:44 AM | #64 |
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10-13-2013, 11:28 AM | #65 | |
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My ex boyfriend is allergic to such a broad range of opiods that he was given diamorphine (medical heroin) for pain management after his last operation, and probably will for the one he's got coming up.
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10-13-2013, 12:30 PM | #66 | |
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My point is that much of the "ZOMG HEROINS" reaction is disproportionate - it can and is used therapeutically and safely, just like morphine, just like methadone, just like all the other synthetic and natural opiates. Heroin is not magically addictive, and just taking heroin doesn't magically make you an addict. Addiction doesn't work like that.
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10-13-2013, 02:49 PM | #68 |
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Re: Krokodil
I wish we had official worked example systems for how addiction works with various example drugs in GURPS terms.
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10-13-2013, 03:06 PM | #69 |
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I automatically thought of injection. You are right when it comes to the oral preparations.
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