04-08-2014, 11:49 AM | #11 |
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Re: What happens if you die in Hell?
Still, if you're working within a Christian paradigm* then those who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior will go to Heaven regardless of where they die. If I understand Islam correctly, then it will depend on how worthy they are - even non-Muslims can go to Heaven, but it's less likely since they don't know the rules.
*I use the term loosely since there are more than 20 000 Christian denominations.
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04-08-2014, 12:10 PM | #12 |
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Re: What happens if you die in Hell?
In my current campaign this is one of the "big secrets." If you venture into Hell as a mortal and die there you go to whatever place you're supposed to end up. If you're "bad" you go to Hell (or just reappear there since you are already there). If you're "good" you go to Heaven. If you die again in Hell or are a demon that dies in Hell...you go to Tartarus. Think of it as the sludge trap under your sink. All the nasties and supernatural critters that really die (i.e., are not banished) end up there. And now I'm going back to sleep because my head is killing me.
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04-08-2014, 12:19 PM | #13 | |
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Hell, Hades, Sheol, Gehenna, Tartarus... and I am probably missing a few. There is debate about whether one simply goes dormant at death until final judgment or whether there is some place where souls of the decease dwell... or dwelt at one time. The Lake of Fire, the place of eternal torment, doesn't seem to come into play until after the final judgment (I think). In all cases, the kingdom of the fallen angels isn't in the realm of the dead, but in the world now. Hell isn't ruled by Satan; he'll just be the most famous inmate after his final attempt against God. If one really wants the typical fantasy Hell (or Heaven) schemes, I favor the somewhat complex Not!Hell or Not!Heaven approach. This works well if there is a reason for beings to try to keep someone alive... oh wait, that isn't really a stretch at all. Whether as allies or fodder, any being powerful enough to interrupt the proper order would do so, and probably have reason to lie and be all "Yeah... this is totally the realm for Neutral Good. If you don't see someone, they must be in a different afterlife." It may even be something of a pyramid scheme; the "god" collects more from followers than it takes to sustain a realm; it invests a little back to bring in more followers and by necessity shares with the deceased to keep up appearances (and perhaps in that state they can still contribute). "Lower realms" may just seek brutal efficiency; the "torment" is less about punishment and more a matter of the god(s) of evil not wanting to "spend" as much keeping "retirees" happy.
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04-08-2014, 01:22 PM | #15 |
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Re: What happens if you die in Hell?
The scripture is pretty concise on the fact that Satan/Lucifer is the ruler of Earth, and he's only cast into hell when the last battle is over.
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04-08-2014, 01:39 PM | #16 | |
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"Hell" doesn't appear in the Bible at all and "Lucifer" only once in Isiah 14:12 in reference to a dead Babylonian King. "Hell" is of course a word that Christians borrowed from Norse myth and "Lucifer" as fallen angel was a concept that developed in Enochian psuedographia and into Christian literature; largely formulated in his modern form by Milton. |
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04-08-2014, 02:15 PM | #17 | |
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04-08-2014, 02:34 PM | #18 |
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Re: What happens if you die in Hell?
I would say that if you are not dead, then your first death just separates your soul from your body. After that, as long as you are in the afterlife you are Unkillable 3. But since this an action-horror genre you are still trapped in Hell unless and until you escape, either to another afterlife, or to the material world where you will now be a ghost.
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