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Old 06-11-2006, 11:00 PM   #1
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Are there Hebrew names for the two new choirs mentioned in Heaven & Hell (the Shepherds and the Ministering Angels)? They look odd on lists of choirs.
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:32 AM   #2
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There aren't Hebrew names for them, that I know of. If you can find a good online translator, you could type them in, though... If I have time, I will try to remember to go through the Gustav Davidson Dictionary of Angels and see if there are any plausible Choir names unused...
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:46 AM   #3
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In Zadkiel's forthcoming extended Superior writeup, the Ministering Angels are called the Malache Hashereth and are detailed a bit. This will be available from e23.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:57 AM   #4
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It must be mine! Here's hoping that the editorial backlog gets cleared up soon. :)

Thanks for letting me know.
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:15 PM   #5
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(I'm glad he remembered. I had vaguely recalled they were there, but not that we'd gotten a proper name sorted for them.)
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:51 PM   #6
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As far as I can tell, Biblical Hebrew for "shepherd" is ro'eh. I don't know how to pluralize that.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:24 PM   #7
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Another reason why it would be convenient to use Hebrew for this choir is the proliferation of the word "shepherd" as a name for groups of celestials.

1. It's a minor choir of angels.
2. It's a sub-group of Servitors of Valefor.
3. It's one of the names of Servitors of Yves (the guy responsible for giving things their own names).

Is the word used to denote any other group of celestials? Having Valefor snaffle the name makes sense at this point, but I'm thinking Kobol might want to use it, just because.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:55 PM   #8
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The plural of Ro'eh is Ro'im, just so you know...

That said, I was a little disappointed that the Ministering Angels and the Shepherds didn't even get resonance descriptions in Zadkiel's book. I've run a few adventures with side treks into Heaven--one of which involved freeing a righteous soul from the Marches. Being able to use some kind of resonance check when the story called for it, would be helpful.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:58 PM   #9
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That said, I was a little disappointed that the Ministering Angels and the Shepherds didn't even get resonance descriptions in Zadkiel's book. I've run a few adventures with side treks into Heaven--one of which involved freeing a righteous soul from the Marches. Being able to use some kind of resonance check when the story called for it, would be helpful.
I can see that. On the other hand, since they spend all their time in Heaven where Infernal Interventions are impossible, I'm not sure a resonance roll matters as much. You have all eternity to keep trying until you succeed. ...
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:28 AM   #10
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In Zadkiel's forthcoming extended Superior writeup, the Ministering Angels are called the Malache Hashereth and are detailed a bit. This will be available from e23.
Is this name considered canon, even though it didn't make it into the write-up?
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