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Old 12-30-2015, 07:58 AM   #21
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The way I see this is much like different size shoes.

You don't charge extra or cheaper for different sized shoes if they're on the "normal" spectrum of sizes. Only a outrageously big or small size would need to be specifically crafted and thus extra charged for.
That's for mass produced shoes. Hand made means you likely charge for the time and, more importently, materials.
There's no corporate requiring fixed costs for ease of chain compatability.
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Old 12-30-2015, 07:59 AM   #22
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The way I see this is much like different size shoes.

You don't charge extra or cheaper for different sized shoes if they're on the "normal" spectrum of sizes. Only a outrageously big or small size would need to be specifically crafted and thus extra charged for.
Stylized is also an option. Probably not in Western Europe where bows were a plebian weapon, but an Asian warrior could have a Stylized bow.
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:06 AM   #23
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If you want different prices, I use ST^2 (or ST^2% as a multiplier for stuff that doesn't cost $100).

How realistic is it to have such fixed ST on bows, BTW? I'd expect a bow to be useable at less than a full draw, as well as maybe changing or adjusting the string to change draw weight a bit. Considering that ST 11 and ST 12 do the same damage anyway, the steps feel rather artificial.
Usable, with just as much penalty as using one too strong.
You can't adjust the string as that's not the part that flexes.
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:25 AM   #24
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That's for mass produced shoes. Hand made means you likely charge for the time and, more importently, materials.
There's no corporate requiring fixed costs for ease of chain compatability.
It doesn't have to do with industrialization or hand made, imo.

I'm rather noobish in the production process of bows...but if the only thing that changes for a stronger pull is the wood and the string, that means you just change what you chose to combine...

What I mean is, I picture an artisan looking at his table with 2 different strings and 2 different woods/bows and he simply picks the combination for stronger or lighter pull and assemble them with mostly the same work.

Is the production of the strings that variable in terms of difficulty of work?

I don't think so.
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:34 AM   #25
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Usable, with just as much penalty as using one too strong.
You can't adjust the string as that's not the part that flexes.
Except, as pointed out earlier, the words on p. 270 (right column, towards end) are "You cannot use a stronger bow"; should I read your post as saying "use the penalty as if it's a melee weapon, calculating damage for your own ST, with extra effort allowing you to temporarily reduce or eliminate the penalty"?
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I'm rather noobish in the production process of bows...
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Craftsman do charge based on time* and materials*. Modern mass produced goods should not be compared to handmade goods for pricing.



*Longer self bows take more work to craft as do stronger composite bows, longer strings need to be thicker and longer, more wood goes into a longer bow, different material in a composite for different strengths, etc.



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What I mean is, I picture an artisan looking at his table with 2 different strings and 2 different woods/bows and he simply picks the combination for stronger or lighter pull and assemble them with mostly the same work.
That's... wow. That's not how it's done at all. Not even slightly close.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:21 AM   #27
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Except, as pointed out earlier, the words on p. 270 (right column, towards end) are "You cannot use a stronger bow"; should I read your post as saying "use the penalty as if it's a melee weapon, calculating damage for your own ST, with extra effort allowing you to temporarily reduce or eliminate the penalty"?
I guess they were house rules and/or in supplements.
But yes, they amount to, if I recall correctly, -1 per point lacking in strength or some other extra effort.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:57 AM   #28
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That's... wow. That's not how it's done at all. Not even slightly close.
I bet I can make a good bow like that. ^_^
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:24 AM   #29
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I bet I can make a good bow like that. ^_^
I bet you could make a bow like that. I doubt you can make a GOOD bow like that.
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Would it be more like. Take bowstave apply spokeshave until the bows strength is equal to the user's?
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