11-09-2011, 12:27 PM | #31 | |
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11-09-2011, 01:20 PM | #32 | |
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In the case of the psychopath, I think it's basically hopeless. They aren't going to have a SoD or CoH that doesn't relate to their most primal desires, probably a close family member. Even that's iffy. In the case of the sociopath, I'm not sure if I can be as confident in predicting how they would perform. However, in general, I would expect a sociopath indoctrinated to a Code of Honor to utterly faily to apply it (in GURPS terms) with any inconsistency. They might believe it, they might believe they are following it, but when push comse to shove, they lie, react to emotional impulses, bend the rules, and so forth. I'd probably put a sociopath's maximum ceiling for loyalty at about -5 points of CoH or SoD. It is far more likely they are actually Chauvinistic or Intolerant or Careful or whatever. Sociopaths do have a conscience to appeal to, but not a morally sophisticated sense. Essentially, they are going to react to the desire for love and the fear of punishment. Those are two forces which have historically caused more failures of duty than successful performances of it. At the end of the day, sociopaths tend to be, if I had to use a word, sketchy. If they are patriots, they are sketchy patriots. Sociopathic drug dealers are sketchy drug dealers. Sociopathic politicians are sketchy politicians. Sociopathic soldiers are sketchy soldiers. Brainwashing is not going to fix that. If you want to term a sociopath into a model soldier, the first thing you need is enough psychotherapy to build up their ego strength, assuming they even have the neurological capability to deal with the stresses of rational, moral life. |
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11-09-2011, 01:59 PM | #33 | |
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11-09-2011, 04:45 PM | #34 |
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The way I understand the proposed TL9 education programme isn't that they are taking someone who is already a fully developed psychopath, and trying to reform him. Rather they are taking a child who is very likely to turn into a psychopath if left to continue on his current path, and instead molding him into a useful tool. The net effect being that instead of developing normal psychopathic traits (whatever they may be), he develops a little bit of that (whichever bits are deemed useful) and also a bunch of other more controllable traits.
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11-09-2011, 04:50 PM | #35 |
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The psychopath who has been unsuccessfully implanted with, say, a Sense of Duty doesn't actually have Sense of Duty on his character sheet and doesn't get to claim points for it. Rather he may have "Quirk: pays lip service to SoD X" or maybe "Secret: doesn't actually have SoD X although he pretends to".
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11-09-2011, 05:42 PM | #36 | |
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11-10-2011, 04:12 AM | #37 | |
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* == You seem mentioning a weak self-concept; that sounds like a further reduction of Will. |
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11-10-2011, 04:29 AM | #38 | |
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11-11-2011, 10:59 PM | #39 |
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If you're designing shock troopers rather than supersoldiers, the idea is mildly workable. Just keep in mind you're arming a squad of amoral liars, killers, and thieves with a bunny-boiling, cultic obsession with your cause, and hoping they follow mission protocol in some fashion. If you ever wanted to do the sci-fi equivalent of burning Atlanta, these are the last guys you would put on the ground, unless you wanted to create a historically memorable incident of atrocities.
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