02-07-2010, 04:50 PM | #141 | |
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Re: Relative Bulk for Battle Rifles
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However, is Icelander going for a squeaky clean legal image for his heroes, or is he simply abiding by limited sources for weapons? Say, his heroes don't know any gun smugglers that deal in anything better than liquor store robbery guns.
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02-07-2010, 04:57 PM | #142 |
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Re: Relative Bulk for Battle Rifles
In my Black Ops setting, I used semi-combustible sabot rounds. The barrel was oversized (say, .308 for a .223 projectile, or 11mm to fire 7.62 rounds) but the bullet had no tell-tale rifling marks.
this, of course, was in a way a give-away of it's own, in that "no marks" is distinctive. But it denied the usual link and matchups. Another high-tech variant would be to use a combustible lining that took the rifling, but put ANOTHER weapon's forensic footprint on the fired projectile (first. each bullet came pre-scribed with some other gun's prints, as it were) Totally BS cinematic stuff, but that meant it totally fit for Black Ops genre. ;-)
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02-07-2010, 05:27 PM | #143 | |||||
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Of course, it's most likely that an M1A National Match is all that is available, but if that's so, well, it shouldn't matter all that much. GURPS gives 'em all the same stats, pretty much. Quote:
It's an investigative game where they know that if they break the laws, their characters will probably go to jail. But events from the last session led to the players ending it with shouts of 'We're gonna need some bigger guns!' When the foes are already dead, putting neat little holes in them isn't going to accomplish much. They want something that tumbles, preferably fragments, and blows great chunks of bone and muscle away. And they found that their 9mm pistols with the regulation 10-round magazines were utterly inadequate. Quote:
Shooting hot reloads will void the warranty and might cause long-term problem with the gun, but it won't blow it up and it will probably work fine for an engagement or two with the Inhuman (and at that point, the warranty of your gun is the least of your concerns). For bonus joy, the two ex-lawmen in the party have Class A LTCs and are therefore licenced to buy 'high-capacity' rifles if I read the Massachusetts laws right. So they can buy themselves some 20-round mags if they find them. Quote:
No matter what they buy, they are going to have to keep it out of sight. So an imperfect weapon that can be hidden in an innocuous sporting bag is far superior to a mobile death ray that will stick out and alarm bystanders and authorities. Looks like the smallest they can legally buy is Bulk -4 shotguns or 5.56mm carbines or Bulk -5* shotguns and 7.62mm carbines. That and Bulk -3 pistols made as back-up weapons for bear-hunters, of course. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Massachusetts found some way to ban high-powered revolvers too, probably on the basis of unloaded weight or something. Does anyone know if the Ruger Super Redhawk and similar guns are legal in MA? Quote:
Do you know where one can buy those ear plugs? Are they going to be in stock in Massachusetts gunstores or do they need to order online? The thing is, they don't really know how long their characters have, but they know that events are moving along whether or not they are involved. So a wait of some days is pretty much out. They can devote an hour or two, maximum three, to obtaining weapons capable of stopping a corpse animated by a malevolent spirit, but then they have to move on with their investigation before there are no more surviving witnesses.
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But, when faced with the supernatural and the evil, that might change. I'm at least going to research the possibilities for my session tomorrow, knowing that the players are going to want some better guns. Maybe they'll elect to buy legal guns only and maybe not. We'll see. If not, what illegal guns are likely to be available in Boston? Most will come through the 'Iron Pipeline' down the I-95, I realise, and the majority will be semi-automatic pistols, but what else can one find? Does the Boston underworld reflect US nationwide preferences when it comes to guns (so I can use the available statistics on what guns are most often used in crimes) or are there local trends of which I need to be aware? Considering the US as a whole, actual illegal assault rifles and such are extremely rare. Even submachine guns and semi-automatic pistols illegally converted to full automatic are exceptionally rarely used in crimes in the real world. Crooks carry .25 ACP Saturday Night Specials made by one of the 'Ring of Fire' companies because they are broke, ignorant and tend to throw the weapons away after crimes anyway. The marginally better off might have cheap 9mm automatics instead and a few of them are smart enough to know that .38 Spcl revolvers don't leave brass on the scene.
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02-07-2010, 05:41 PM | #145 |
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Re: Relative Bulk for Battle Rifles
Thanks for your help, guys.
Strictly, though, this discussion would probably be a better fit for this thread, which is about said game and where I ask questions when I need local knowledge. If you'd all nip over there with your weaponry speculation and answers, that would be great. ;)
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