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Old 03-22-2017, 11:52 AM   #131
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"Can be resurrected", in a setting that doesn't have Resurrection, is Unkillable (either 2 or 3, depending on whether the original body is required) with limitations.
Except again, it lacks everything game mechanically about the advantage and as you keep saying is nearly useless except as a prerequisite for other traits. Should it really be more than five points?
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Except again, it lacks everything game mechanically about the advantage and as you keep saying is nearly useless except as a prerequisite for other traits. Should it really be more than five points?
It's useless if it doesn't include the ability to be resurrected. If it includes the ability to be resurrected it's worth far more than 5 points, the basic effect is:
Unkillable 3
Achilles Heel: damage to backup storage (-10% or more, depending on accessibility of backup storage)
No Unkillable 1 (no canonical price, usual estimates are around -20%)
Nuisance Effect: memory loss (anything since your last sync with backup; probably about -5%)
Trigger: requires a new body (depends on rarity of new bodies; call it -15% by default)
Real Cost: typically 75
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:49 PM   #133
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It's useless if it doesn't include the ability to be resurrected. If it includes the ability to be resurrected it's worth far more than 5 points, the basic effect is:
Unkillable 3
Achilles Heel: damage to backup storage (-10% or more, depending on accessibility of backup storage)
No Unkillable 1 (no canonical price, usual estimates are around -20%)
Nuisance Effect: memory loss (anything since your last sync with backup; probably about -5%)
Trigger: requires a new body (depends on rarity of new bodies; call it -15% by default)
Real Cost: typically 75
Unkillable 3 doesn't apply. This isn't about restoration from an external backup, that is bought separately, which it clearly says in the description. This is just the ability to be stored as unconscious data.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:05 PM   #134
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Unkillable 3 doesn't apply. This isn't about restoration from an external backup, that is bought separately, which it clearly says in the description. This is just the ability to be stored as unconscious data.
If you can only be stored as data, but not restored, it's completely useless and worth 0. If you can be restored, it's Unkillable.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:24 PM   #135
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If you can only be stored as data, but not restored, it's completely useless and worth 0. If you can be restored, it's Unkillable.
Being stored and rebooted in the same shell isn't Unkillable 3. If it is Unkillable, it is a version of that trait that has none of the mechanics of it.
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Being stored and rebooted in the same shell isn't Unkillable 3.
Yes, it's instead totally useless; it doesn't actually do anything, since if your shell is in any condition to be rebooted, it hasn't taken fatal damage and thus you didn't need to be stored, and if your shell can be repaired past fatal damage it has Unkillable.
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Yes, it's instead totally useless; it doesn't actually do anything, since if your shell is in any condition to be rebooted, it hasn't taken fatal damage and thus you didn't need to be stored, and if your shell can be repaired past fatal damage it has Unkillable.
Suspended Animation...

Also it is an obvious prerequisite for the rest of this stuff.
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Suspended Animation...
Can only happen if the body has an ability that permits it to enter suspended animation.
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Also it is an obvious prerequisite for the rest of this stuff.
Which just makes it an unusual background, and not worthy of distinguishing from other unusual backgrounds.
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Which just makes it an unusual background, and not worthy of distinguishing from other unusual backgrounds.
So the various AI templates should just have a nonspecific and undefined Unusual Background [5]?
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So the various AI templates should just have a nonspecific and undefined Unusual Background [5]?
No. The AI templates should have a comment indicating the GM may wish to assign an unusual background.
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