12-13-2017, 07:48 AM | #1 |
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Counters with even width
I wanted a visual aid to help aid with the combat map "footprint" of monsters of various sizes. The chart in Monsters (seen on the back cover) gives the dimensions, but the three animals shown next to it don't cover even half of the various sizes. So I created a google drawing to sort of map this out.
But while working on this, I can't quite get how creatures that have an even (2, 4, ect) number of width hexes are suppose to look. The problem comes from the need to have a "front" size (thus a flat hex side). But this means that a 1x2 figure will have his "head" on his left or right, not in the middle. Or is it suppose to have his "head" be between the two hexes, this would give the figure 4 front hexes? Here is the chart I've been working on with the figures in question in red. https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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12-13-2017, 12:07 PM | #3 | |
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Re: Counters with even width
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Here is a quick mockup: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Css...ew?usp=sharing Does that mean that other characters in any of those 5 hexes are in "close combat" with the figure? Can characters in any of the surrounding 12 hexes hit the figure with reach 1 weapons?
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12-13-2017, 12:14 PM | #4 |
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Re: Counters with even width
So does your Boxy SM +2 figure with the red mark around it. What's the problem with a 5 hex footprint, vs a 4 hex or 10 hex or whatever?
The orientation you're using for the oval based one seems bad for most actual animals, which are short-end-forward rather than long-end-forward. I would not assume that moose sidestep everywhere just because it gives a relatively "flat" front end :P Regardless, boxy minis mean that facing "up-down" vs "left-right" produces different hex footprints. In one direction a figure might be nice and regular and in another they might not. It's just a thing you deal with.
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12-13-2017, 12:27 PM | #6 | |
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Re: Counters with even width
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The oval one here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Css...ew?usp=sharing) is suppose to be for the Upright figure, so not an animal, but a giant. And the next step for me after figuring out the footprint is figuring out what are the Front, Side, and Back hexes. The 5-hex footprint means that this would have 5 front hexes, 4 side hexes (2 each side), and 3 back hexes ... I think. Here is my work up of that (green = front, yellow = side, red = back): https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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12-13-2017, 01:15 PM | #7 |
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Re: Counters with even width
Okay, after looking at this some more, I think my issue is that I keep thinking that a counter needs to fill X by Y hexes. So the 1x2 Upright figure is going to take up 2 hexes on the battle map (the same way that a 2x1 figure would).
But maybe this is wrong? That same figure could be placed in 4 hexes if it was centered on the border between two like this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jNC...ew?usp=sharing That is the same actual size as the sleek 2x1, but keeps proper facing.... I think. Am I still off track here?
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12-14-2017, 01:49 PM | #8 |
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Re: Counters with even width
I created a new set of templates with what I think is the correct placement of counters and showing how they'd fit on a combat grid here:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...it?usp=sharing and https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...it?usp=sharing Still not sure if this is right, but it seems workable.
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12-15-2017, 07:06 AM | #9 |
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Re: Counters with even width
Looks good. Try picking the "Head" hex and rotating them around that point - that's how they'll be used in play.
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12-15-2017, 07:43 AM | #10 |
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Re: Counters with even width
Hm, yeah that's a good point. If I start with a "head" hex, and just let the rest fall where the may, it might simplify things a bit. I'll have to go back to my previous look for the SM+2 upright figure. Thanks.
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