09-19-2020, 04:35 PM | #21 |
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Re: Weapons as staves
Would anyone ever use staff to sword?
Especially if, as in RAW, a staff can be a sword, it's pointless. And if that is house-ruled out, it still seems like quite an investment. One turn each battle to turn the staff into a weapon (hope the spell works) costing 1 or 3 ST and for this to be effective, an additional 2 to 4 IQ points for the talent. Not sure I see the market. (Is this spell found in the literature, by the way, or did you come up with it?) |
09-19-2020, 05:25 PM | #22 | |
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And if you allow the occult strike to stack with regular weapon damage, that could be a nice little melee boost.
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09-20-2020, 03:20 AM | #23 |
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Re: Weapons as staves
Ah, but my question would be, is it Staff to Steel Sword (-4 DX to spells for the duration of the transformation), or Staff to Silver Sword? Or I suppose one could rationalize it doesn't have to be either, because it isn't a real sword at all, it just functions identically to one.
I like but have never used the idea. I see role playing aspects to making a character look less dangerous than they really are. And of course, it's one less thing to carry, which is always a good thing.
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09-20-2020, 11:09 AM | #24 |
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Re: Weapons as staves
A staff-to-weapon spell wouldn't be pointless but it might not be popular nor wise in most cases.
There was such a spell in one of the many take-it-or-leave-it optional spell lists in the original publisher's Interplay magazine. Staff to Weapon, IIRC. It was a fairly high-level spell, and included the ability to use it without learning a weapon talent. A couple of powerful NPC wizards in my original campaign took it. |
09-20-2020, 11:43 AM | #25 |
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Re: Weapons as staves
Giving the ability to use the weapon makes it a heckuva lot more attractive.
But then it's appropriate that it be high level. What were the ST costs and duration? |
09-20-2020, 01:55 PM | #26 |
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Re: Weapons as staves
The Interplay spell was IQ 17 and ST cost was 2 (or 3 if a peculiar weapon) and 1 per turn to maintain.
The continuing ST cost is pretty high even if you consider the embedded weapon talent which is why my version dropped that element.
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09-20-2020, 03:38 PM | #28 | |
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If you take away the maintanence cost, I presume you added a specific duration? |
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09-21-2020, 10:01 AM | #29 | |
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You envision what your character will be upon its creation. If you can't envision him using a staff that is not a wooden stick, then who cares if a dagger is obviously the best choice. Your character would never consider it and won't use it. For him, its not even a choice!
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09-21-2020, 10:09 AM | #30 | |
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Perhaps more RAW upsets could modified by agencies restricting the rules through law or societal pressures. This broadens the story and could possibly allow the PCs to do something about it.
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