12-02-2022, 12:24 PM | #1 |
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Elven Cloaks
In Middle-Earth, elven cloaks are stupendously effective at keeping you hidden. This was adapted into That Other Game as cloak of elvenkind. So lets say there's a cloak modifier that gives you +4 to Camouflage. What CF would you assign to that?
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12-02-2022, 01:33 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
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This is somewhat different from dungeon camouflage (Adventurers, p. 113). Additional ordinary clothing is $120, 2 lbs. per outfit (Adventurers, p. 110). Dungeon Camouflage adds $240 per suit, which amounts to +2 CF for clothing. On the other hand, it also benefits Stealth vs. Vision. Make that its own effect with the same modifiers: "+1 to Stealth vs. Vision for +1 CF, +2 for +4 CF, +3 for +9 CF, or +4 for +16 CF." I don't see anything especially weird about having one but not the other in a fantasy world. If you do, then insist that it's always "+1 to Camouflage, and to Stealth vs. Vision, for +2 CF, +2 for +8 CF, +3 for +18 CF, or +4 for +32 CF." All of the above assumes one specific environment. An "Active," "Adaptive," or "Universal" cloak that works everywhere should be more costly. In GURPS, this sort of thing is nearly always +300% on an advantage, so I'd quadruple the modifiers: "+1 to Camouflage, and to Stealth vs. Vision, for +8 CF, +2 for +32 CF, +3 for +72 CF, or +4 for +128 CF." Given the low cost of a cloak ($20 or $50), it's still a pretty sweet deal. To avoid silliness, I'd say that it must be on a cloak.
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12-02-2022, 02:16 PM | #3 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
And if it's actually an elven cloak, then elves might get their usual 10% discount from their Elven Gear perk.
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12-02-2022, 02:53 PM | #4 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
Definitely! If it has "elven" in the name, that applies. If the GM doesn't want it to apply, don't call it "elven."
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12-02-2022, 03:07 PM | #5 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
Does that apply to elven slaves?
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12-02-2022, 03:35 PM | #6 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
That probably depends on the GM, and what sort of game you're in.
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12-03-2022, 07:30 AM | #7 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
While costly, I could see this on a tent.
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12-03-2022, 03:47 PM | #8 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
If they are enslaved by Drow raiding parties, or bred on the dirt farms far below the cloud cities of the Lands Under The Hill, why not?
Lots of elves are not very nice people, and vile monsters like you enough to cut deals with you is hardly out of character for a lot of adventurers.
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12-03-2022, 05:42 PM | #9 | |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
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I guess I'm the only one here who finds it amusing to juxtapose "elven" as an adjective for the implied quality of manufactured goods with "elven" as an adjective describing the creators of those manufactured goods. The logical incoherence of the idea that slavers would cut elves a special deal on buying other elves... to me that's funny in the same way as the observation that "I'm sorry" and "my bad" mean the same thing, except at a funeral. Dad humor. I'll show myself out. Last edited by sjmdw45; 12-03-2022 at 05:45 PM. |
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12-04-2022, 03:22 AM | #10 |
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Re: Elven Cloaks
That's an interesting idea. Yeah, I could see that. Tent of elvenkind
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