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Old 04-24-2018, 09:15 AM   #71
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Default Re: Tech Level Confusion

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Originally Posted by David Johnston2 View Post
Steampunk diverges at TL 5, not TL 4. The lumniferous aether is a TL 5 concept. At TL 4 nature abhors a vacuum. Seriously, what is with the obsession with Steampunk?
It not "obsession" to use one of the two detailed examples (Steamtech being the other) of TL(x+y) tech we have.

As for "horror vacui" even Aristotle had filled space with a fifth element (five perfect solids so there had to be five not four elements) which he called aether, represented by the dodecahedron. This aether was not air, water, fire, or water. This views were contested by Epicurus and Lucretius who said there were two fundamental principles in nature: the atom and the void.

Never mind that less then 50 years after François Rabelais wrote "Natura abhorret vacuum" the vacuum was being created and experimented on.

On a side note contrary to popular belief not all Renaissance Christianity was against the vacuum. The Anglican Church embraced the vacuum via an interesting theological argument: The vacuum was evidence of the realm where god and his angels resided from which the king derived his authority so as Jame Burke so flippantly put it "Long live the Vacuum".

So if the heavens were the realm where god and his angels resided then obviously it was a vacuum.

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