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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
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10-05-2020, 09:02 PM | #12 | |
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10-06-2020, 02:56 AM | #13 | |
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10-06-2020, 02:46 PM | #14 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
"For our next game we're going to be using GURPS, it's a roleplaying game similar to Dungeons and Dragons but better suited to the world you're all interested in playing in. You can look over a free copy of the rules here http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/lite/3e/gurpslite.pdf, but we'll be learning this rule system as a team so I'm going to take plenty of time for everyone to learn how to play."
A lot of the obstacle of getting players to try GURPS is the notion that trying GURPS is some burden that we have to ask players to take on. |
10-07-2020, 03:16 PM | #15 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
When I used to run several GURPS games at each of three conventions per year, I did two primary promotions:
1) I ran some games with titles that would sound familiar to just about every one. For example, "GURPS Monty Python" could get me Pythonites who'd never heard of GURPS. 2) I'd says, "If you can roll three six-sided dice, you can play GURPS." Players would tell me what they wanted their PC to do, and I'd tell them what to roll on. Simple as that. Note that when I started GMing GURPS, I had never played it and none of my players had ever played or GMed it. EDIT: For conventions, I almost always built the PCs in advance. The primary exception was for GURPS Davenford, which was a fantasy campaign set in Megalos, Yrth, with several sessions run at three annual conventions (OrcCon, Gamex, Gateway, all Strategicon). For that, players designed and played their regular character(s).
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GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves My first GURPS supplement Top 12 Clues You're a Role-Playing Old-Timer My humorous (I hope) article that also promotes SJGames/GURPS Kerry Thornley: Dwarf Planet Eris, Discordianism, and The John F. Kennedy Assassination Without Thornley, there would never have been the Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia Last edited by Alden Loveshade; 10-07-2020 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Edit as shown |
10-07-2020, 03:30 PM | #16 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
I posted mostly about convention games.
For my first campaign (which I actually did before conventions), I had some players who had never played GURPS nor any roleplaying game. To build characters, I first gave them a basic idea of the world they'd be in. Then I'd ask them what they wanted their character to be able to do, and I'd let them know what Attribute/Advantage/Skill etc. level to choose. And I'd help them with Disadvantages/Quirks that would fit their concept. So we built their PC together. For an experienced roleplayer new to GURPS, I assisted less. Then I'd let them start designing the PC, then say things like, "Actually, in GURPS a DX of 7 can mean your PC's going to fall down a lot during chases." One or two of my players never did get to knowing the rules all that well, but it didn't matter. My job was to ask them, "What do you want your character to do?" Then tell them what to roll on.
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GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves My first GURPS supplement Top 12 Clues You're a Role-Playing Old-Timer My humorous (I hope) article that also promotes SJGames/GURPS Kerry Thornley: Dwarf Planet Eris, Discordianism, and The John F. Kennedy Assassination Without Thornley, there would never have been the Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia |
10-07-2020, 03:49 PM | #17 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
Attributes are a lot more important in GURPS than any many systems, so new players usually do not understand how big the difference is going from 10 to 14 (especially D&D players, where they are used to every +2 attribute giving a +1 to tests)
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10-07-2020, 10:59 PM | #18 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
I focus on the game not the system.
For people new to RPGs or GURPS. I create their first character for them based on description from them based on my description of the world. I tell them to imagine they are in a slightly gritty adventure movie and depending on the power level I explain they are a lot like (insert name of characters). After the character is done I explain what the character is good at and any special skills and weaknesses (in plain language) the character has. Then I tell them to describe what they do and ill translate it into game system and don't worry they will pick it up. I gradually let them learn the rules and terminology at their own speed including character creation services or helping them until they get the hang of it. If I'm talking to a new person who wants to run a game in GURPS and ask me why I like it i explain that the base system does a really good job of emulating a reality everyone recognizes so you can wing it really easily if you don't have a rule on hand and that is one of GURPS biggest strengths.
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10-08-2020, 12:03 AM | #19 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
I'm seeing several people say versions of that, to the point where I think it's the central message of this thread. And it's certainly my approach as well.
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10-08-2020, 04:15 AM | #20 |
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Re: How would you promote GURPS to RPG newbies?
Generally speaking, this would be my approach, but I don't think I would roleplay with someone I didn't know well, especially because I tend to play around with odd things like taboos, don't really know... any genre conventions, and tend to tailor campaigns around the players. And if I do know them well enough, then presumably I'd know which approaches to take with them.
On the flipside, life isn't that simple. Sometimes I've roleplayed with people I've known for all of five minutes who don't seem to know much about fiction in general. From there I ask fast and simple questions about what kind of character they'd want to play. Just tell them to imagine anything. I'll write up a quick-and-dirty sheet, explain what I just wrote so they can grasp and grok their character and just explain things on the fly. Being forced to improv is basically how I GM and I just memorize rules and such when I'm not roleplaying. |
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