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12-18-2008, 09:31 AM | #1 |
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Snickersnee and a scary clown boss question
This is a rather rare scenario... so of course it came up in our third game of munchkin quest and I'd like some thoughts on the validity of it.
Scenario: A level 10 munchkin walks into the entrance with a snickersnee equipped (weapon that automatically defeats scary clowns). Draws monster card... which happens to be the scary clowns. So it becomes a level 20 scary clowns boss. The main question: Does this scenario give the munchkin an automatic win? The rules clearly state that the boss always fights, there's no changing or bypassing, etc., however based on the wording this seems like it's not bypassing but is actually fighting and defeating the boss... automatically. We ruled that the munchkin got the win, but would like to hear an official ruling on this case. A related question: What is the exact timing of automatic wins? (of which I believe this would be one of the very rare examples). Specifically, can other munchkins interrupt an automatic win with wondering monsters, dispelling, etc.? A munchkin can always wander in monsters, but I believe the automatic win would happen first. Basically, we chose to treat an automatic win as if dice already have been rolled in combat. In this particular "clown-boss" case, the munchkin would win the game already so wandering in monsters afterward for a future combat is pointless. Another way to phrase this question is: does a wandering monster interrupt the normal post combat leveling/looting? |
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However, I don't think this is the intent, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if someone with the authority to rule came and said that the 2.6 second rule does still apply to combats that have no monsters due to auto-kills and their ilk.
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12-18-2008, 11:04 AM | #3 |
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Re: Snickersnee and a scary clown boss question
The Snickersnee does automatically defeat the Clowns boss, but you still have to do the 2.6 second thing, so another monster could be added to the fight before it was technically over.
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12-18-2008, 12:02 PM | #4 | ||
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12-18-2008, 03:00 PM | #5 | |
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On the off chance that it is allowed, I would see it as a preventative measure only, i.e., it wouldn't give the win. The munchkin would have to re-fight another boss. |
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12-18-2008, 03:21 PM | #6 | |
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I don't often argue against the official ruling, but this one rubs me the wrong way.
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12-18-2008, 03:27 PM | #7 | ||
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02-26-2009, 11:36 AM | #8 | |
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I had the Snickersnee and the Clowns were the boss mob. Someone wandered in a Monster. I assume I can still use cards like dispell monster to remove the wandered monster from this room/combat and then I am only left with the Boss monster which is defeated correct? The only monster I cannot banish is the Boss monster right? How would I handle banish type cards that remove all monsters from combat? Would it remove all but the boss or would that type not be playable on the final boss fight. Basically, are the cards allowed but the boss is unaffected or are the cards just not allowed to be played and if so which type, the single target, room target or all of the above? Sentinel |
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02-26-2009, 03:12 PM | #9 |
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Re: Snickersnee and a scary clown boss question
Sentinel, the rules for the Boss fight seem to apply only to the Boss Monster itself, not to the entire battle. So in the scenario you describe it would be okay to banish another monster that was added to the fight.
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02-26-2009, 03:38 PM | #10 | |
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