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02-06-2018, 10:45 AM | #21 | ||
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Not as such, but I'm a software engineer.
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02-06-2018, 11:01 AM | #22 |
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02-06-2018, 11:04 AM | #23 |
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Re: Medium Dependent Intelligence, Uncopyable Intelligence, and Transhumanism
Forward error correction is a type of redundant data transmission (or storage). Redundant data is multiple copies (or semi-copies).
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02-06-2018, 11:36 AM | #24 | |
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* In principle, it's possible for a Turing-capable mechanism to emulate the functioning of any other mechanism, using a software description of the relevant hardware. * A major limitation on this is complexity. But a common assumption of transhuman settings is continuing exponential growth in the complexity of computer systems. What required a computer the size of the Pentagon one decade will later be possible to a box you can carry in your pocket. * I'd also note that there are significant parallels between genetics and code, and between epigenetics and the execution of code; the process that generates the brain might be called a "program."
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02-06-2018, 11:44 AM | #25 |
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Re: Medium Dependent Intelligence, Uncopyable Intelligence, and Transhumanism
Digital intelligences are just intelligences dependent on digital storage rather than biological storage (the term 'digital' here just refers to the use of discrete units of measure rather than nondiscrete units of measure). There is nothing inherent in the term that requires the products of digital signals to be copyable or transferable.
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02-06-2018, 11:53 AM | #27 |
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No, I am using a rather standard definition of digital, at least when it comes to digital data (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital).
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02-06-2018, 12:02 PM | #28 | |
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If an AI is to be intrinsically uncopiable, it can't run on a computer that is only Turing-complete. The hardware needs to be doing something that can't be emulated by software on a Turing-complete machine. That's quite hard, because all questions in digital circuit design can be represented in software, as can all analogue ones that are stable enough to represent with numbers. This is why people say that uncopiable AI tends to imply something like a "soul," or alternatively, the correctness of Roger Penrose's theories about quantum mechanics and consciousness.
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Nonfinite deterministic systems are all through classical physics. Laplacian determinism, for example, works with differential equations, based on functions of real numbers, and real numbers as such are inherently impossible to express digitally.
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