12-03-2018, 03:02 PM | #1 |
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Critical success/failure table, p 9
The text says this is weighted towards critical failures on very hard tasks.
But that is a misleading understatement... A 6d roll is the norm for attacks against a defending weapons master. for 6 dice: 14 and below = success; 24 and up = failure According to anydice.com, critical failure is therefore expected 28% of the time. for 8 dice: 20 and below = success; 28 and up = failure. And according to anydice.com, 28 and up should occur 54% of the time. That seems harsh. |
12-03-2018, 03:45 PM | #2 |
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Re: Critical success/failure table, p 9
Note that the most common 8-die roll is against DX plus ST to jump a megahex (page 104). So an IQ 8 human (or IQ 10 with Acrobatics) maxes out their jumping potential after adding 3 points to either ST or DX.
Olympic class jumpers just take four levels of Acrobatics? http://www.hcobb.com/tft/new_spells.html#Talents
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12-03-2018, 04:50 PM | #3 | |
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12-07-2018, 06:42 AM | #4 | |
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Re: Critical success/failure table, p 9
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12-07-2018, 08:06 AM | #5 |
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Re: Critical success/failure table, p 9
There's some stuff you can't munchkin your way out of! Anyway, I thought these were the auto failure intervals, not the numbers that lead to dropped or broken weapons. Isn't that right?
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12-07-2018, 08:28 AM | #6 | |
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The problem with this table is that success grows by three but failure only grows by two. So a 16 die roll of 44 is an automatic success and an automatic failure.
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12-07-2018, 10:09 AM | #7 |
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Re: Critical success/failure table, p 9
Good; leave it. I think if the GM makes you attempt a 16 die roll then he or she should be obligated to explain what it means for the roll to both succeed and fail.
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12-11-2018, 05:22 PM | #8 |
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Re: Critical success/failure table, p 9
Problem is that the harder a task is the less the character's attributes and talents matter. At higher levels of difficulty it's just random chance.
BTW: If you must succeed and have a zero stat then add difficulty to the task so you can roll more dice. 2-dice auto succ: 2.78% 3-dice 4.63% 4-dice 5.40% 5-dice 5.88% 6-dice 6.08% 7-dice 6.12% 8-dice 6.07% So increasing the task from a 2-die roll to a 6-die roll more than doubles your chance of success. Or a more practical example: Grumpy the 2nd ST 11 DX 6(1) IQ 15 Quarter-staff(1d+2/1d) Plate armor(5) Staff I-IV, but no quarterstaff talent Not having the weapons talent increases his chance of hitting and he's immune to critical failures.
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12-11-2018, 09:29 PM | #9 | |
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What seems important for a scaling table of crit success/failure is that the chance for crit failure should be greater than the chance for crit success for 4+ die tests. The table on p.9 accomplishes this for 5+ die tests. I guess 4-die tests are common enough to justify keeping the crit-success% = crit-failure%. #d...crit-success%...vs...crit-failure% 2d.....2.78 vs 2.78 3d.....4.63 vs 4.63 4d.....5.40 vs 5.40 5d.....5.88 vs 15.20 6d.....6.08 vs 27.94 7d.....6.12 vs 41.42 8d.....6.07 vs 54.05 ...Assuming 44 or less for success and 44+ for failure.... 16d...4.61 vs 96.66 ^ No, that doesn't make sense to me. LOL Statistics rarely do at the extreme ends of a spectrum! I'm going to cite "Platimus' Law of Infinity" - As you approach infinity, nothing makes sense and I get a headache! LOL Maybe "I'm doing it wrong" but check it out on anydice.com.
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10-28-2020, 09:54 PM | #10 |
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Re: Critical success/failure table, p 9
Critical Success and Failure on 5 Dice
Have any of you a "widely-accepted" table showing Critical Success and Failure rolls on 5 dice? Somewhere from my TFT past I have a list for these steps on 4 dice, but my GM has - as of late - been throwing 5-dice variety obstacles at us. And I want to know when my to-hit roll does, say, double damage on one of his boorish thugs, in such a way as to make him accept its certified provenance. |
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