01-29-2016, 12:16 AM | #31 |
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Re: Martial Arts: Polearm/Quarterstaff/Weapon Adaptation
OK for the house rule.
But the description of the naginata really sounds strange... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naginata Having said that, I have to admit that I never trained to use a naginata (and didn't see how it is handled). |
01-29-2016, 12:33 AM | #32 | |
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01-29-2016, 03:41 AM | #33 | |
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Also there is no such thing as a fencing skill (unlike the staff skill) there are melee skills that include fencing weapons. moreover weapon adaption is not what we're talking about here, we're talking weapons that appear under two skill listings. Which is is kind of inbuilt weapon adaption but with specific stats for each skill, and in general the specific trumps the general. However we can test the point easily. Staff skill has several weapons with +2 in their listed parry characteristic, and some with 0 or 0U, do you add a blanket +2 to parry on top of all of them? Last edited by Tomsdad; 01-30-2016 at 03:55 AM. |
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01-29-2016, 03:48 AM | #34 | |
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01-29-2016, 04:31 AM | #35 |
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OK so to be clear you give every weapon listed under Staff skill a +2 to parry unless it has U in it's parry stat? So a quarter staff / long staff / Jo all parry at a total +4 at your table?
Also that Kromm quote is a bit odd because it infers* that the only reason staff weapons with 'U' aren't +2 is because they have the 'U'. So what about weapons listed under staff that are just 0? *or I actually think you over inferring from it. I think his point is just about 'Unbalanced' and your broadening it out to all weapons. Last edited by Tomsdad; 01-29-2016 at 04:35 AM. |
01-29-2016, 04:43 AM | #36 | |
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just like when the Sai when listed under the Jitte/Sai skill [Martial arts p.227] is listed at "+0" but when the Sai is listed under the Main-Gauche skill [p.228] is listed as "+0F" hence why the nagaita while listed under the staff skill isn't "+2U" but "+0U" because it an unbalanced weapon but can be used with the Staff skill to let use cr damage with it Last edited by roguebfl; 01-29-2016 at 04:47 AM. |
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01-29-2016, 05:33 AM | #37 | |
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I.e. a weapon wielded with the Staff skill enjoys the benefits of the Staff skill unless stated otherwise. Such 'stated otherwise' cases can be weapons with a U-Parry, or weapons whose statline for Staff overrides the parry modifier. |
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01-29-2016, 08:31 AM | #38 | ||
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01-29-2016, 08:37 AM | #39 | |
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Somewhat between the way Dueling Halberds and Long Spears are used (meaning in some modes of attack/defense a naginata is used like a heavier long spear and in some like a lighter halberd). |
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01-29-2016, 09:00 AM | #40 |
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Re: Martial Arts: Polearm/Quarterstaff/Weapon Adaptation
Why +4? You seem to be offering to apply the general and the specific example of the rule twice. Don't do it twice.
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