Steve Jackson Games - Site Navigation
Home General Info Follow Us Search Illuminator Store Forums What's New Other Games Ogre GURPS Munchkin Our Games: Home

Go Back   Steve Jackson Games Forums > Roleplaying > Roleplaying in General

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-06-2018, 09:07 AM   #331
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
IIRC this was amongst the delights of feudal Europe - most places had several conflicting power centres fighting over each case (guild, crown, local lord, church etc., not to mention specialised operations like market courts). Many cases could be sandbagged indefinitely just whilst jurisdiction was established.
In Paul Johnson's History of Christianity, it tells how for a long time in the Middle Ages the Church dealt disproportionately with litigation. One example he gave was a Pope exasperated by a parish and it's bishopric spending years arguing jurisdiction.
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 12:20 PM   #332
Johnny1A.2
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Johnston2 View Post
A two party democracy, but a highly puritanical one that tightly restricts publication of material deemed to be injurious to the "public mental health". This leads among other things to the suppression of pornography, reporting of details about mass and serial killings, and the restriction of any kind of fiction which is not firmly based in the real world.
That's not so much an exotic system as a particular culture using a familiar system.

That's an important distinction, because the exact same governmental/legal system will give totally different results if used by different social cultures.
__________________
HMS Overflow-For conversations off topic here.
Johnny1A.2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 09:36 PM   #333
ericthered
Hero of Democracy
 
ericthered's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far from the ocean
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Rule by rotating monarch. There are a number of different bloodlines, and each reigns for a set amount of time.

This is inspired by modern Malaysia, which uses 9 bloodlines with 5 year terms. They're a constitutionally monarchy, so it doesn't matter as much as it could.
__________________
Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog
ericthered is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2018, 09:52 PM   #334
Dalillama
 
Dalillama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason taylor View Post
That is actually not all that uncommon in a kin-group. Usually of course the deceased ancestor is symbolically ruling rather then people actually believing he speaks through the current chief. It does have it's advantages. So long as the mythology is not bothered to much by pesky historians(come to think of it, they still haven't managed to taint Arthur, probably because no one really knows much about him anyway), a dead king cannot abscond with Church funds, run off with Senator's wives, or kill a man therefore he has a lot of advantages.
Of course, in a fantasy setting, it's quite possible that the ancestor's rule is not at all symbolic.
Dalillama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 10:49 AM   #335
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericthered View Post
Rule by rotating monarch. There are a number of different bloodlines, and each reigns for a set amount of time.

This is inspired by modern Malaysia, which uses 9 bloodlines with 5 year terms. They're a constitutionally monarchy, so it doesn't matter as much as it could.
That's actually a pretty good idea.

Another one is that each dynasty gets only three generations. After that there is an electoral process (similar to the Venetian one where there was several Dogeal elections and lotteries before the Doge was picked) in which the successor is is chosen. His heir and his heir then reign in another cycle.

Another possibility is that a given distinguished citizen with the legislature's or electorate's consent is considered a fosterling of the monarch. They are allowed all the honors of a prince including the possibility of reigning themselves. This has some resemblance to a House of Lords.
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2018, 11:53 AM   #336
malloyd
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason taylor View Post
Another possibility is that a given distinguished citizen with the legislature's or electorate's consent is considered a fosterling of the monarch. They are allowed all the honors of a prince including the possibility of reigning themselves. This has some resemblance to a House of Lords.
These sorts of systems are actually quite common. Roman houses adopted heirs fairly frequently, many Scots titles could pass by tanistry and so on, though there is often a lot of overlap, given that marrying the adopted heir to a girl from the prior ruling house is a pretty common thing to do in these systems.
__________________
--
MA Lloyd
malloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 10:19 AM   #337
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

An aristocracy based on clientage rather then descent per se. Naturally one can pick a relation as a client, and of course relations form the detritus of diletantes which are given harmless jobs. But that is not the key point. What is the key point is that if one of your clients screws up not only he but you are announced to the whole world and disgraced. And if he performs brilliantly you get part of the credit. In other words the system is based on, "you can be as big a nepotist as you like, and have the resources to manage, so long as you pick competent nephews."
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison

Last edited by jason taylor; 06-12-2018 at 11:05 AM.
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 03:53 PM   #338
David Johnston2
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

A bicameral legislature in which the upper house, who are appointed for life unless impeached, have no authority over law making but instead serve as the final interpreters of the law instead of a "supreme court".
David Johnston2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 05:54 PM   #339
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

More cinematic then real. Every one who gains a position must pass a test. Not so much an academic test in fields that would actually be appropriate to government (that is not so much some thing you would get at the US Naval War College or the Indian Civil Service Academy). That would be boring. It would be a tortuous test of will, strength, cunning, and general badassery. It would include things like escaping from deathtraps, defeating dangerous beasts in battle, enduring torture, going on vision quests. Kind of like The Spartan Way but to insane for actual Spartans. Someone who passes this test is qualified to rule.
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 11:02 PM   #340
ak_aramis
 
ak_aramis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Alsea, OR
Default Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason taylor View Post
More cinematic then real. Every one who gains a position must pass a test. Not so much an academic test in fields that would actually be appropriate to government (that is not so much some thing you would get at the US Naval War College or the Indian Civil Service Academy). That would be boring. It would be a tortuous test of will, strength, cunning, and general badassery. It would include things like escaping from deathtraps, defeating dangerous beasts in battle, enduring torture, going on vision quests. Kind of like The Spartan Way but to insane for actual Spartans. Someone who passes this test is qualified to rule.
So, only people who succeed on American Gladiators, and can handle their hallucinogenics?
ak_aramis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Fnords are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.