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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
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The Self-Control roll absolutely represents a compulsion here. You roll against it when you know that you shouldn't give in, but can't stop yourself unless you succeed at the roll.
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02-12-2018, 12:26 PM | #22 |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
No, there is nothing within the description of the disadvantage that says that the character must interact with them. My interpretation of the disadvantage is that the reason why Xenophobia is a disadvantage is because the character in question does not expect violence from the exotic party, meaning that they would always suffer complete surprise (or partial surprise if they have Combat Reflexes) when they failed a self-control roll and were attacked by the exotic party. They would also not be suspicious if the foreign soldiers asked them to come to their base for questioning, if the cute vampire wanted them to come home to meet their parents, or if the TMWNMTK wanted their help to move to another dimension.
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02-12-2018, 12:39 PM | #23 |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
It makes you foolishly trusting, not suicidal.
Pollyanna, not Disney-Lemming.
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02-12-2018, 01:06 PM | #24 | |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
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02-12-2018, 01:29 PM | #26 | |
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02-12-2018, 05:39 PM | #27 |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
Which is what the point is that it depends on how it is defined in the game.
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02-12-2018, 06:20 PM | #28 |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
Add Weirdness Magnet.
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02-12-2018, 08:39 PM | #29 |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
At the moment it's a "Non-Cinematic" game... however it's expected for weirdness to show up at some point (it's billed as 'kinda like Stargate').
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02-13-2018, 01:26 PM | #30 |
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Re: How much does Xenophilia overrides self-preservation instincts?
Am I the only one who takes this to mean both sides of the argument in question?
Absolutely the character sees a gun pointed at their head and absolutely will try not to get shot! However, the Xenophilia individual may believe there is no ill intent from the creature in question. Will Smith: He's not snarling, he's sneezing! In the case of hostile outcomes they may believe it was some action the character did to cause it or that they can dissuade the situation easily. It specifically gives examples in the disadvantage of people glaring with obvious ill intent and party members fleeing the obvious problem. To me this becomes "The char never assumes the other side is inherently prone to evil/violence/etc". And because of that, they are going to give everyone a fair chance under the assumption there's a good whatever in there somewhere.. ... on a failed CR roll. Self preservation is not trumped by Xenophilia, however, self preservation may not be the same idea someone without the disadvantage comes up with. Now, to give you an example of what I'm talking about, take Mars Attacks. The scientist played by Pierce Brosnan has Xenophilia for sure. Clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeTsvoV7xqM After the Martians showed hostile intent, they kept assuming it was something else "Obviously the birds are the cause!" While the General is like "WE GOTTA NUKE THEM NOW!" in the same movie. Anyway, it's a disadvantage and a disadvantage should hinder your character. If the disadvantage does not hinder your character then it is not a disadvantage. YEs, a person with Xenophilia should be making poor choices based upon it or it shouldn't be on the char sheet.
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