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Note that it will be the "doing" that's the basis for post-action repercussions be they civil or criminal. On the other hand it's unlikely that they will ever issue licenses for using Fast Talk for fraudulent purposes.
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You're administering a neurochemistry-modifying chemical agent with a view to alrering somebody's behaviour. That's exactly equivalent to slipping them a roofie. Quote:
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(b) The English language lacks a term for purely verbal persuasion methods that subvert the capacity for free will. Chiefly because, rightly or wrongly, few people believe that those exist. However, "smooth talking" is hardly an unambiguously positive term; it carries connotations of skill and elegance, but also of dishonesty and deception. Saying that someone is a smooth talker is a back-handed compliment at best. Quote:
In a setting like TS, I'd anticipate that people would prefer to retain the assumption of free will, rightly or wrongly. Saying it can be subverted by mind-altering drugs is one thing - the proof is left to your local bar at closing time. Saying that mere speech can entirely annihilate the ability to resist is likely to be a much harder sell.
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Consider: There is a percentage of people who find the afterscent of chocolate-flavoured shower gel to be highly seductive and arousing. In effect, it afflicts a quirk-level lecherousness and/or provides reaction bonus worth about 1-2 reaction levels (let's say that's +4). That's an example that works (I've seen people with such reactions to such a scent), and it's definitely not a drug, even though surely such a big change in behaviour involves changes in brain chemistry caused by this chemical. There are also currently perfumes which are advertised as 'having pheromones'; obviously they are not classed as drugs; less obviously, there's apparently likewise a small percentage of people for whom they produce a similar effect. Now consider: as TL grows, perfume-makers learn how to expand the percentage of people by those scents. The mechanism of changing the brain remains as indirect as in the modern example. Quote:
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True. A better example might be memetic techniques that are regulated or forbidden, such as threats, lies, omission of key information, and bribery. |
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Food scents seem to belong to the 'obvious' group. So if they're regulated because of their persuasive effects (I'm not an FDA legislator/lawyer/etc.), that at least seems to cast doubt on the hypothesis that the obviousness-vs-subtlety is the major factor here. |
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