looking for rule: modifiers on modifiers

[mehrkat]

Hi All,

I've been trying to find it in the books and can't seem to.

How does the math work if you want to add a modifier only to a modified use of a the power.
For instance say you want to add +50% long range modifier but want it to cost fatigue -10% just to boost the range. How do you make that modifier?

I know somebody just has that rule at their fingertips.

[sir_pudding]

There isn't a general rule for modifying modifiers. There's no rule for modifying limitations at all. AFAICT there isn't a rule for enhancing enhancements either.

However, Optional Rule: Limited Enhancements on B111, (optionally) limits enhancements.

[Proteus]

I'm curious about the issue, too. Suppose, for example, you're creating an undercover angel who manifests wings in order to fly, but otherwise lacks them. Well, that's Flight with the Winged limitation... but the wings are Switchable, only appearing (and being targetable) while Flight is in use.

So how do you price that?

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Proteus

So how do you price that?

Why isn't it just:
Flight (Winged -25%, Switchable +10%) [36]?

[mehrkat]

Thanks that was just what I needed.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Proteus

I'm curious about the issue, too. Suppose, for example, you're creating an undercover angel who manifests wings in order to fly, but otherwise lacks them. Well, that's Flight with the Winged limitation... but the wings are Switchable, only appearing (and being targetable) while Flight is in use.

So how do you price that?

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Why isn't it just:
Flight (Winged -25%, Switchable +10%) [36]?

However let's say that the process of forming and deforming the wings is painful and costs you a HP of damage to do so, but the acuatly act of flying doesn't cause any damage so that Flight(Winged. -25%; Switchable, +10%; Cost 1HP, -10%) [30] isn't appraore.

you insead use the rule on B111

Flight(Winged. -25%; Switchable (Cost 1HP) , +9%) [34]

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

you insead use the rule on B111

Yes, so? I never said you can't use the Option Rule: Limiting Enhancements to limit an enhancement. What that rule doesn't do is enhance enhancements or modify limitations at all.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Yes, so? I never said you can't use the Option Rule: Limiting Enhancements to limit an enhancement. What that rule doesn't do is enhance enhancements or modify limitations at all.

I wasn't saying you were, I was given an example of when you would use it. to limit an enhancement in the case switchable using cost HP. I quoted because I was adding to what you said, and given you credit for completing that rules research before I did. That is a hard rule to fined after all.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

I wasn't saying you were, I was given an example of when you would use it.

The OP has an example of that. I understood Proteus as asking about modifying a limitation (Winged in this case, specifically).

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

The OP has an example of that. I understood Proteus as asking about modifying a limitation (Winged in this case, specifically).

mehrkat had already posted his question was satisfied. But Proteus was unclear on when to apply the rule despite mehrkat's example. You gave Proteus the directed answer to his build needs, I gave an addition contrasting example in the same idiom as his question and your answer to help clarify the difference.

the post was directed at Proteus you were quoted as well yo give you credited for answer rather than having to repeated it, as my answer being a contrast need to be tied to you answer.

I'm utterly baffled by your hostile response to me saying you are right and amplifying on your rightness.