Steve Jackson Games - Site Navigation
Home General Info Follow Us Search Illuminator Store Forums What's New Other Games Ogre GURPS Munchkin Our Games: Home

Go Back   Steve Jackson Games Forums > Roleplaying > In Nomine

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-15-2019, 01:16 PM   #1
Rocket Man
Petitioner: Word of IN Filk
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Longmont, CO
Default Notre Dame is Burning

In the world of In Nomine, the cathedral of Notre Dame is the Earthly headquarters of The Heavenly Host. If we assume that the IN world parallels our own, how would the various Archangels react to the devastation or loss of perhaps their mightiest Tether?
__________________
“It's not railroading if you offer the PCs tickets and they stampede to the box office, waving their money. Metaphorically speaking”
--Elizabeth McCoy, In Nomine Line Editor

Author: "What Doesn't Kill Me Makes Me Stronger"

Last edited by Rocket Man; 04-16-2019 at 01:43 PM.
Rocket Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2019, 02:58 PM   #2
Andrew Hackard
Munchkin Line Editor
 
Andrew Hackard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

This is a horrible, tragic event, and there are lots of places to discuss its real-world effects . . . but these forums aren't one of them. Please be sure to keep THIS thread focused on what might happen in the IN setting.
__________________
Andrew Hackard || Munchkin Line Editor, Steve Jackson Games

Twitter: @SJGames || Facebook: SJ Games and Munchkin
Medium: @SJGames || Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games
Instagram: @stevejacksongames || YouTube: Steve Jackson Games

New Munchkin player? Visit our Munchkin 101 forum!
Andrew Hackard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2019, 11:14 PM   #3
finn
 
finn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

I think the Tether would be weakened for a while, but come back strong. The donations and goodwill from across the globe would be astronomical. If it was meant to be a demonic ploy to permanently weaken the Tether, I say it would fail, or even backfire.

However, if the purpose was to temporarily weaken the Tether and distract Heaven, it would be very effective. Hell must be planning something very nefarious if they pulled off the burning of Notre Dame as a temporary distraction.
__________________
Running DFRPG now. Have run "I Smell a Rat", "You All Meet at a Inn", "Ezkali's Golden Geniza", "Hydra Island", "Grave of the Pirate Queen", and "Titan's House". Started: "Hall of Judgement".
finn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2019, 01:39 PM   #4
Rocket Man
Petitioner: Word of IN Filk
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Longmont, CO
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard View Post
This is a horrible, tragic event, and there are lots of places to discuss its real-world effects . . . but these forums aren't one of them. Please be sure to keep THIS thread focused on what might happen in the IN setting.
Agreed, Andrew. The game effects are what I was interested in discussing here. Thanks for keeping us focused. I've also taken the liberty of editing my initial post to remove the (minimal) real-world commentary.
__________________
“It's not railroading if you offer the PCs tickets and they stampede to the box office, waving their money. Metaphorically speaking”
--Elizabeth McCoy, In Nomine Line Editor

Author: "What Doesn't Kill Me Makes Me Stronger"

Last edited by Rocket Man; 04-16-2019 at 01:44 PM.
Rocket Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2019, 01:41 PM   #5
Rocket Man
Petitioner: Word of IN Filk
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Longmont, CO
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

Quote:
Originally Posted by finn View Post
I think the Tether would be weakened for a while, but come back strong. The donations and goodwill from across the globe would be astronomical. If it was meant to be a demonic ploy to permanently weaken the Tether, I say it would fail, or even backfire.

However, if the purpose was to temporarily weaken the Tether and distract Heaven, it would be very effective. Hell must be planning something very nefarious if they pulled off the burning of Notre Dame as a temporary distraction.
Both points are well-made. I think the second becomes especially sinister if we assume this was inspired not by Belial, but by Kobal. (A destructive accident caused by a renovation crew is just the sort of irony the Prince of Dark Humor would appreciate.)
__________________
“It's not railroading if you offer the PCs tickets and they stampede to the box office, waving their money. Metaphorically speaking”
--Elizabeth McCoy, In Nomine Line Editor

Author: "What Doesn't Kill Me Makes Me Stronger"
Rocket Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2019, 11:20 PM   #6
ak_aramis
 
ak_aramis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Alsea, OR
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

There is also the issue of "Was it a supernatural plot or a mortal one?"

I see several possible answers to that...
  • Purely mortal
  • Mortals inspired by demons
  • Demons
  • Mortals inspired by Fey
  • Fey/pagan entities
  • Gabriel (or his subordinates) firing up the French¹ to some Angelic plan

The first thing is going to be the host trying real hard to figure out which. Which may be especially hard if it was Angelic in origin.

If purely mortal, a large part of the host then goes to work on the mortals to get the repair funding going and the redesign into full "Imposing Inspirational Art" mode.

Mortals put up to it by demons? longer tie-up, and more work, because the demonic

If demonic in whole or part, a reckoning of some form. The why could be to tie up a portion of the host, or simply to test how faithful Paris is...

If Fey/Pagan, it's a direct attack on religion - weakening the tether so that they can reach their followers.

If it's Angelic, it's either a test, or a means of rebuilding so the tether is more appropriate than the renovations. Those mortal folk can be so stolid at times...


¹ the pun wasn't intentional, but was left in after noticing it.
ak_aramis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 02:34 AM   #7
Whitelaughter
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

Within In Nomine, there is no chance of this being accidental; while an accident is possible real world, within the game the Cherubim attuned to the building would have detected the fire with their resonance.

Nor would the assault on Notre Dame have been unexpected; the 2016 planned attack and the 875 French churches attacked last year would make it clear that an assault on Notre Dame was inevitable.

For Hell to be able to launch such an attack would indicate that they are winning the war, and have been for years. Heaven is clearly on the backfoot.

Dominic is probably planning to put Zadkiel on trial - given the most generous assessment of her work recently would be "incompetent"; while "treasonous" would be running through the minds of many angels.

Zadkiel Falling works well for a future campaign set, becoming the DP of Protection Payments, including blackmail and Jizya.
Whitelaughter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2019, 11:51 AM   #8
malloyd
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Default Re: Notre Dame is Burning

Hah, this is our big chance to show those fools over in Sculptural Factions who've been bragging about Civil War monuments and saying Architectural Factions hasn't been pulling their weight in the war....

You guys get out there and make sure blood runs in the streets over the proper style in which to rebuild the Opposition's biggest tether.
__________________
--
MA Lloyd
malloyd is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
notre dame, superiors, tethers

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Fnords are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.