09-25-2020, 08:08 AM | #41 | |
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I understand why its so fast, telling the heroes their custom gear will be ready in 2 weeks is a lot less fun than having it ready after their coffee break, but it gets annoying when people mistake them for reasonable numbers instead of functionally magic.
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09-25-2020, 08:52 AM | #42 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Questions for Open Space
The factory systems are not that bad actually, given their cost and the cost of labor and materials.
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09-25-2020, 09:30 AM | #43 | |
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Though if you go with restaurant prices (99% service, 1% food) for the food factory output, you've already divided production by 100+
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09-25-2020, 10:39 AM | #44 | |
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The easiest way to fix factory systems is: Fabricator: requires component costs of 200% of the mass and cost of the good's value. May reduce this to 100% at 10x time, 50% at 100x time. Nanofac: requires components cost of 100% of the mass and cost of the good's value. May work on raw materials at 1/1,000 rate. This keeps them their use in adventuring without causing them to be utter nonsense economically. |
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09-25-2020, 06:11 PM | #45 | |
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09-25-2020, 10:45 PM | #46 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Questions for Open Space
They are grown from cell stock, not manufactured. Biological growth generally produces low amounts of waste heat. Anyway, it is 100 lbs per biological minifac per hour, not tons.
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09-26-2020, 01:23 AM | #47 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Questions for Open Space
I think my chef friend once said that the materials cost for a meal should be about 20% of the restaurant price, and a quick Google gives 20%-40%.
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09-26-2020, 02:29 AM | #48 | |
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09-26-2020, 08:50 AM | #49 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Questions for Open Space
Because one of the uses of Open Spaces is food production. If you use biological minifacs for food production though, you can use Open Spaces for other purposes (or replace them with other components). Since one biological minifac at TL9 can support 600 people, they allow for more efficient spacecraft designs until up to SM+14.
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09-26-2020, 09:21 AM | #50 | |
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However, you still need the mass for the raw stock (a minifac is not a recycling system), so you're probably better off just paying for actual food and saving the mass. The real competition with open spaces for long-term life support is the total life-support for cabins, etc.
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