[Magic] A Pound Takes Up 2 Cubic FEET?!

[Anaraxes]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

What scc means is that if even one apprentice enchanter drops out fo the project (of the full crew) then the enchanting stops dead.

Ah, you've moved on from the clients. My mistake.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Anaraxes

Ah, you've moved on from the clients. My mistake.

I don't think scc was ever proposing the client quitting being a problem.

[Anaraxes]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

I don't think scc was ever proposing the client quitting being a problem.

Starting from around post #38, there's a sub-topic or tangent about the clients not paying, and how the enchanters would have to be able to at least subsist on their own for the duration of a large project in the absence of a client. I thought the most recent comment to which I responded belonged to that thread, instead of the one about the enchanting circle itself.

Sorry for the distraction.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Anaraxes

Starting from around post #38, there's a sub-topic or tangent about the clients not paying, and how the enchanters would have to be able to at least subsist on their own for the duration of a large project in the absence of a client. I thought the most recent comment to which I responded belonged to that thread, instead of the one about the enchanting circle itself.

Sorry for the distraction.

I don't think there is in fact in post #38, or any of scc's posts thereafter. As they pointed out in post #43, the point was not that the need to survive two years, it was the quitting midway and having no product and a year of labor completely wasted.

Before post #38 there were some bits about having or not having subsistence money during the project. In #33 and #35 for instance.

[wmervine4]

So coming back to the OP's point about weight versus the additional cubic feet of space...

I view this as a TARDIS type of situation. Bigger on the inside and all that. The text doesn't explicitly state this, but I always interpreted the one pound as the container's loaded weight after you fill up the two cubic feet inside. For finer detail, you could scale this so when the interior space was half full, the container would weigh its usual weight plus .5 pounds.

[scc]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

I don't think there is in fact in post #38, or any of scc's posts thereafter. As they pointed out in post #43, the point was not that the need to survive two years, it was the quitting midway and having no product and a year of labor completely wasted.

Before post #38 there were some bits about having or not having subsistence money during the project. In #33 and #35 for instance.

I sort of did. Due to the way things work an enchanting house would either have to not pay until the projects completed, pay as things go and massively overcharge whoever's actually buying the item, or pay a pittance during the project with a massive bonus for the group that actually manages to complete the project.

Originally Posted by wmervine4

So coming back to the OP's point about weight versus the additional cubic feet of space...

I view this as a TARDIS type of situation. Bigger on the inside and all that. The text doesn't explicitly state this, but I always interpreted the one pound as the container's loaded weight after you fill up the two cubic feet inside. For finer detail, you could scale this so when the interior space was half full, the container would weigh its usual weight plus .5 pounds.

No, it's very clear that the added weight is the weight of the extra stuff that can be held.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by scc

No, it's very clear that the added weight is the weight of the extra stuff that can be held.

To be really picky that's the case at 100 pts of energy per unit. There is an option to only spend 50 pts and see all of the volume (and probably any other indicator) disappear while the weight still shows up as Encumbrance.

[Lord Azagthoth]

Do the rules state weight or mass?

The weight is gravity dependent. 1 kg of water on earth or any other 1G planet is 1kg, but only 0.5kg on a 0.5G world and weightless in space. The mass is the same in any of these circumstances.

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by Lord Azagthoth

Do the rules state weight or mass?

The weight is gravity dependent. 1 kg of water on earth or any other 1G planet is 1kg, but only 0.5kg on a 0.5G world and weightless in space. The mass is the same in any of these circumstances.

The GURPS rules seem to be using "weight" to mean "mass." You can't just go by what words they use; you have to look at how it behaves in a non-1-G setting.

[Culture20]

Originally Posted by Lord Azagthoth

Do the rules state weight or mass?

The weight is gravity dependent. 1 kg of water on earth or any other 1G planet is 1kg, but only 0.5kg on a 0.5G world and weightless in space. The mass is the same in any of these circumstances.

basic science quibble. grams are mass, so 1kg is 1kg. You want Newtons (metric) or pounds (english) if you’re discussing weight in different gravities.