11-28-2004, 11:36 PM | #21 |
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Re: Car Wars Reloaded
A grain blight might also be caused by the trend away from biodiversity in food crops combined with the influx of geneticly engineered seed. It is possible that a crop becomes so prevalent because of its short-term success, that it dominates the market. If something happens to stop its production in the long term, the world could suffer the effects of a blight. It wouldn't even have to be an external influence, it could be caused by a flaw in the crop itself.
Even today, some high yield crop seeds are engineered so that they will not reproduce on their own, forcing planters to purchase new seed every year rather than replanting some of what they grow. If something happened to the supplier, they would be forced to return to old crops. If the old crops have all but died out during the success of the new engineered crop, planters would find it nearly impossible to find viable, sustainable crop seed. But, of course, the blight angle is a lot easier to explain in one sentence, and it provides a fairly inescapable crop doom. I think that the food riots provide a good decline of civilization to retard the advance of technology. Widespread terrorism would be more likely to unite the terrorized peoples against the threat. Hunger is something that affects the daily lives of everyone, and would be more likely (IMO) to pit neighbor against neighbor. Sean |
11-29-2004, 01:33 AM | #22 |
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Re: Car Wars Reloaded
You don't even have to go that far into the realm of "sci-fi" in order to imagine possible events that could lead to economic/agricultural turmoil.
Global warming is a looming spectre. its real, its here, and its effects are present - how far they will go is the only question. some scientists think that the weather will experience wilder fluctuations, and large storm events will become more frequent and more severe. What happens if Florida gets nailed by 3 hurricanes next year? another big hit to agriculture. The midwest goes from no rain and practically drought conditions to inundating rainstorms and flash floods washing away prime topsoil. new genetically modified crops are designed NOT to germinate, forcing farmers who use the new strains to buy new seed from manufacturers. They claim to be protecting intellectual property rights of all things. but what happens if in a fictional scenario, a major drought occurs for 2-4 years in a rows in the midwest and farmers simply can't buy new seed - the companies go bankrupt without the $$ from sales and aren't around to make seed anymore when better weather comes back. (side note - did you know that modern fertilizers require petroleum by-products to manufacture?) Further out, possibly within a 50-100 year time frame, some scientists agree that the effect of global warming will shut down the North Atlantic Current, which would paradoxically cause an ice age. Now, I know you've probably seen "day after tomorrow" and while the ice age won't happen in the 3-4 day period that the movie uses for dramatic (and exaggerated) effects, the truth is that the current keeps the worldwide temperatures moderate. It could slowly happen over the course of a couple decades. A recent episode of "The West Wing" brought to attention the 'Hubbart Peak' (hope I got that right.) basically a guy many years ago accurately predicted when Oil production in the U.S. would begin to decline (which has since passed), and that some scientists agree that the *worldwide* Hubbart Peak could bew here now or could be within the next 20 years. Oil is gatting used at progressively faster and faster rates. and not only by cars, but aircraft and ships. Ships will always have wind available and could be converetd back to coal use at a vary large expense, but aircraft wouldn't work at all without oil. International trade will come to a grinding halt, and countries that can't feed themselves will find their choices very limited. countries that are heavily dependant on oil for electrical generation will be in even worse shape. Nuclear power will become very important very quickly in order to keep going. but with the collapse of a global economy, no one is going to be able to build new powerplants. truth can be stranger than fiction. Chern |
11-29-2004, 08:38 AM | #23 |
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Re: Car Wars Reloaded
I've thought some about how to go about doing the Car Wars timeline myself for a possible Autoduel campaignat some vague far-off point. Going 50 years ahead from today I would do the following few oddities I think. Not certain and these are just off the top of my head.
There you have my slight reinterpretation of what leads to the world of Car Wars. Famine, War, Plague, and Fear. This leads to the Free Oil States, Violence on TV, Fortress Towns, Power Cells, Unemployment. All the horrors that make the world a living hell, but a ripe place for gaming of whatever sort you like.
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11-29-2004, 08:38 AM | #24 |
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Re: Car Wars Reloaded
Personally, I thought the background of Car Wars was unbelievable anyway. If a grain blight/nuclear war took place, arming regular vehicles, especially for the purpose of entertainment, would be the last thing on survivors' minds.
I was never too concerned about the background of the Car Wars universe as I treated it as a board game - armed vehicles in an arena needed little justification. The whole backstory was irrelevant. However, in this current day of reality television, it might be plausible to envision a society where death sports become acceptable. Armed vehicles start out in the arena and then, with some sort of "disaster which topples society", they progress out into the "real world." I would be just as happy with the backstory being that Car Wars is just a futuristic interactive video game played in a "battle pod" that simulates real world combat. |
11-29-2004, 12:09 PM | #25 | |
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Re: Car Wars Reloaded
Quote:
All the grains, grasses, corn and rice crops die -- and the world is taken over by people on the Atkins Diet (who generally do not eat those high-carb foods). :) :)
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11-29-2004, 02:59 PM | #26 |
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Atkins dieters or terrorists? I'd rather deal with the terrorists. At least they can be dealt with. Atkin's folks are just wierd. Let me have potatoes with my steak.
How's this? Armed vehicles came first. Good Ol boys out fightin in the fields started killin off da crops. A pickup doing a d5 turn in a corn field can cause all kinds of damage. Add in a few flamers and some napalm mines and the harvest is shot. |
12-01-2004, 02:34 PM | #27 |
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Re: Car Wars Reloaded
My idea isn't much different than the others mentioned here, but maybe a little simpler...
Terrorists successfully set off nukes in a number of U.S. cities, completely destroying them (NYC and DC would be obvious choices). Fear and paranoia turn other major cities into fortress towns. Newcomers are not welcome, and vigilantes begin executions of suspected terrorists. The economy quickly spirals into a the greatest depression ever seen. The suburbs and rural areas quickly fall into chaos as gangs of unemployed and desperate people gather together to take what they can from those who still have it. Many attempt to go to the big cities for protection, but are turned away. Few farms are able to defend themselves against the increasingly well armed gangs, and food production gradually decreases over time.
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