Steve Jackson Games' GURPS 2020 PDF Challenge

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by Tenchi2a

Isn't prime directive revised listed on Warehouse 23 ?

W23 is a store that sells a bunch of stuff, not all of which is published by SJG.

[Paulon]

Originally Posted by Tenchi2a

Isn't prime directive revised listed on Warehouse 23 ?

Yes, but the Prime Directive books are written and published by a third party, Amarillo Design Bureau, not Steve Jackson Games, and use GURPS under license.

[Anders]

Originally Posted by namada

Just in case you don't have it at all, not just in pdf form, yeah, it's very, very useful to have. The new advantages and modifiers alone are worth its cost.

I agree. I have it as a book, but having it searchable would be nice.

[philreed]

Originally Posted by Tenchi2a

Isn't prime directive revised listed on Warehouse 23 ?

Please see this statement from the Kickstarter campaign. This is important information; so important, in fact, that it appears twice on the Kickstarter campaign page.

"NOTE: Only PDFs published by Steve Jackson Games and currently listed for sale on Warehouse 23 will be available to project supporters. We cannot list PDFs by other publishers or PDFs that we do not currently sell."

If you check the GURPS Prime Directive product description on Warehouse 23, you will find this info:

"Publisher Amarillo Design Bureau"

Please look at the product details on Warehouse 23 very, very closely when deciding whether or not to support the GURPS Kickstarter campaign. The last thing we want to deal with is an unhappy project backer who thought they would be able to select a PDF that will not be available in BackerKit.

Asking questions here should, hopefully, help to avoid the problem. Please feel free to ask if you have a question about any specific title.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...pdf-challenge/

[cptbutton]

Originally Posted by philreed

Please see this statement from the Kickstarter campaign. This is important information; so important, in fact, that it appears twice on the Kickstarter campaign page.

"NOTE: Only PDFs published by Steve Jackson Games and currently listed for sale on Warehouse 23 will be available to project supporters. We cannot list PDFs by other publishers or PDFs that we do not currently sell."

If you check the GURPS Prime Directive product description on Warehouse 23, you will find this info:

"Publisher Amarillo Design Bureau"

Please look at the product details on Warehouse 23 very, very closely when deciding whether or not to support the GURPS Kickstarter campaign. The last thing we want to deal with is an unhappy project backer who thought they would be able to select a PDF that will not be available in BackerKit.

Asking questions here should, hopefully, help to avoid the problem. Please feel free to ask if you have a question about any specific title.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...pdf-challenge/

The GURPS Traveller books might also not be available, because they are now from Far Future Enterprises.

(I've already got them all, so it doesn't matter to me.)

[Kromm]

In brief, it has to be:

• sold on Warehouse 23;
• a PDF (not a book, software, etc.);
• related to GURPS; and,
• published by SJ Games.

To confirm that last point, check the product page on Warehouse 23. I've attached a graphic showing a few examples, with thick red boxes around the publisher data. If those data don't say "Steve Jackson Games," you cannot select the product as part of the credit offered in the higher levels of this Kickstarter.

[Anders]

I wonder where the "profitability" line is. DFRPG was successfully funded, but not profitable (IIRC).

(And no, I don't expect SJG to disclose this information. Just thinking out loud.)

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by Anders

I wonder where the "profitability" line is. DFRPG was successfully funded, but not profitable (IIRC).

That may have been due to scope creep. This project, by having all of the products ready before it opened, seems to be quite resistant to scope creep.

[Kromm]

I don't think it's even useful to compare PDFs to a physical product that had to contend with several printed books, multiple specialty components (box, poster map, cardboard counters, dice, etc.), and assembly. That's apples to stem bolts. The current PDF won't have to contend with printing, casting, cutting, samples, assembly, boxing, or physical shipping.

Also note that we revised our thinking and supported the Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Game with three other Kickstarters. The game was ultimately profitable! It's just that the original Kickstarter wasn't the raging success we had hoped it to be (let's say that our hopes were closer to the 3,379 backers TFT got that to the 1,587 we actually got).

[Anders]

True, true. So far we have 70 people at the "New to GURPS" level. Some will be people who are already into the game and want the Basic Set, but on the other hand some new people will be going for the $99 level.

Edit: Projection says somewhere between $52,000 and $65,000. So comfortably founded and then some. But sadly, no one went for the "Kromm lives in your attic" level.