Steve Jackson Games - Site Navigation
Home General Info Follow Us Search Illuminator Store Forums What's New Other Games Ogre GURPS Munchkin Our Games: Home

Go Back   Steve Jackson Games Forums > Roleplaying > Roleplaying in General

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-25-2020, 09:02 AM   #41
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
...and possibly Satan, although I think the direct Angevine heritage may have died out. That was more of a Plantagenet thing.
Somehow I doubt that Her Britainnic Majesty claims decent from Satan.

As for Wotan, back then the Wittanagemot, chose from what Scots call the "Derbfine", messing things up a little in that department. That is a precedent for the seventeenth century reclamation of Parliamentary Surpremacy in the incident of the Glorious Coup.

In any event, the OFFICE of Her Britannic Majesty does not descend from either Wotan or Satan as it did not come to be until Britain had declared itself independent of the former and at war with the later, by virtue of naming her Defender of the Faith. The bloodline has gone through so many twists and turns that who can say.

A couple of things it does not own:

Royalty DOESN'T own the right to enter a poor man's cot, even though rain and snow may enter.

Royalty does not own the right to turn back the tide even though it rules the waves.
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison

Last edited by jason taylor; 06-25-2020 at 01:08 PM.
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2020, 06:00 PM   #42
The Colonel
 
The Colonel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason taylor View Post
Somehow I doubt that Her Britainnic Majesty claims decent from Satan.
Her predecessors the Plantagenets, however, did. It's related to Henry II describing his sons as "the Devil's brood", but derives from the Black Legend of Anjou - specifically, that the Counts of Anjou (including Henry II's father) were descended from a marriage between Count Fulk and the devil's daughter... it was at least a somewhat self aware excuse for being ambitious, arrogant and foul tempered...
The Colonel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2020, 08:22 AM   #43
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Silmarils: Now you are being silly.

A private strike team of eagles: Only Manwe owns that.

Two pet ravens, and two pet wolves: I think one-eye qualifies as royalty.

Chessmen carved by Margeret the Adroit

A white gyrfalcon

A Persian Cheetah (if he is an oriental monarch)
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2020, 12:01 PM   #44
Johnny1A.2
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason taylor View Post
Silmarils: Now you are being silly.

Well, the Silmarils originally were owned by royalty, i.e. Feanor and his sons. But Maedhros waived their claim to kingship over the Noldor, transferring the crown to Fingolfin (albeit some of his brothers privately resented this). But the ownership of the Silmarils didn't transfer with the crown. Then the sons of Feanor found that their own claim of ownership on the gems had been voided by God, so that claim too was null.

Actually, it's not clear that anyone owns the Silmarils after the First Age, or that anyone can own them.
__________________
HMS Overflow-For conversations off topic here.
Johnny1A.2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2020, 12:49 PM   #45
Anders
 
Anders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

One is in the sky, one in the fiery depths, and one in the ocean.
__________________
“Bad times, hard times, this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times.” - St. Augustine of Hippo
Anders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2020, 10:53 AM   #46
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

The first edition of every book published in the kingdom, with hand tooled leather binding, gold dye etched titles, and illuminated writting.
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 12:11 AM   #47
AlexanderHowl
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
Her predecessors the Plantagenets, however, did. It's related to Henry II describing his sons as "the Devil's brood", but derives from the Black Legend of Anjou - specifically, that the Counts of Anjou (including Henry II's father) were descended from a marriage between Count Fulk and the devil's daughter... it was at least a somewhat self aware excuse for being ambitious, arrogant and foul tempered...
A wonderful family legend for the billion or so people who are descended from the Plantagenets (basically anyone with any European ancestry). They ruled for a long time and were fairly busy when it came to producing children (legitimate or otherwise). Of course, quite a few less of them can prove ancestry, but that is because of poor record keeping over the centuries.
AlexanderHowl is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 04:25 AM   #48
Anders
 
Anders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexanderHowl View Post
A wonderful family legend for the billion or so people who are descended from the Plantagenets (basically anyone with any European ancestry). They ruled for a long time and were fairly busy when it came to producing children (legitimate or otherwise). Of course, quite a few less of them can prove ancestry, but that is because of poor record keeping over the centuries.
I wonder if genetic analysis may be able to help with that.
__________________
“Bad times, hard times, this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times.” - St. Augustine of Hippo
Anders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 07:38 AM   #49
johndallman
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cambridge, UK
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anders View Post
I wonder if genetic analysis may be able to help with that.
Not really. The same people who are descended from the Plantagenets are also descended from most of the other people in Europe at the time. The genes have been too thoroughly shuffled over the generations.
johndallman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2020, 05:07 PM   #50
jason taylor
 
jason taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
Default Re: [Campaign Inspiration] What surprising things are owned by royalty

Quote:
Originally Posted by johndallman View Post
Not really. The same people who are descended from the Plantagenets are also descended from most of the other people in Europe at the time. The genes have been too thoroughly shuffled over the generations.
So? Most of the Kings then were children of Old Scratch.
__________________
"The navy could probably win a war without coffee but would prefer not to try"-Samuel Eliot Morrison
jason taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Fnords are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.