07-05-2017, 10:41 AM | #41 |
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Re: Swiss Army Knife
Not to burst any bubbles, but, the whole "use your keys between your fingers" is a terrible idea.
You are more likely to injure yourself. Credible self-defense course teach attaching a short cord and swinging the keys like a tiny little flail. Still not as good as a real weapon or solid unarmed combat training, but... |
07-05-2017, 11:52 AM | #42 |
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Re: Swiss Army Knife
This. An all-out punch has an good chance of crippling your hand. I used to teach a SHARP class for women's defense. We never advised this. The key can turn in your grasp, and you will pay for it. Try it yourself: put the keys between your fingers and push down on a table. The key point will pivot and you will see what I mean. This is how the awl in a SAK will work, though it's advantage is you have more of a grip with the knife as a fist load. Anyway, it's a weak attack at best, and does very little damage. Of course, you also run the risk of damaging the key, which is bad if you want to flee in your car. A better option is to use a small flashlight as a fist load, and attack with a hammer fist. Or use a large tactical pen for a stabbing attack.
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you'd be way better off. In GURPS terms, as the GM, if I were generous, I might let you use a SAK like this if you had a proper Perk. This is an attack that requires training; otherwise, you'd likely just hurt yourself. Pick up a rock instead. |
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07-05-2017, 12:04 PM | #44 |
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I've had several self-defense courses thrust upon me; they kept coming free with e.g. my gym classes, my martial arts classes, Pathfinders[1], egad.
Every single course emphasized that the "I AM THE KEY WOLVERINE" thing is just as stupid as that sounds. Women are not less likely to mutilate ourselves with them; consider that while I certainly have some pretty sucky upper-body strength[2], I also have hands that would be considered incredibly tiny on a man of my height and shoulder width. Add in women's typically lower grip strength, and I'll have even more trouble controlling something like a key. A precision grip isn't a good grip for a weapon in combat, it doesn't use your strength properly. A stupid grip like pinched between your fingers is just stupid. [1] Girl Scouts for Commonwealth countries. [2] Gender differences are completely drowned out by being a total couch potato for over a decade. I suspect women "punch like a girl" as much because they've got no idea how to do it, they know that "good girls don't", and they never do exercises that would develop those muscles. Anatomical differences are an indisputable factor, but lack of a clue, lack of willingness, and lack of conditioning are pretty bad too.
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07-05-2017, 07:13 PM | #47 | |
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But I was young and so was my opponent. Children don't always have the same inhibitions. What you seem to have met is people without the will to hit who probably did have the means. They were not accustomed to it from exercise, on the other hand most normal citizens are not(I know the basic way to go about it but I haven't done so in decades). But I think a critical point is that you were an instructor not an enemy. They didn't WANT to hit you and that took a lot of the confidence from behind the blows. I don't think I could credibly try to hit someone I really wasn't trying to hit either.
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07-05-2017, 08:16 PM | #48 | |
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One was very indoctrinated that the appropriate response to being grabbed was to squeal delicately and flap her hands a little. The other (sitting on the ground) wrapped herself around the instructors leg like a snake, bit his kneecap, hard, and SHOOK it like a terrier with a rat. Poor guy had a cane for the rest of the course.
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07-05-2017, 08:42 PM | #50 |
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Re: Swiss Army Knife
I take a weekly exercise-style boxing class, there's a girl who is usually there as well who is technically superior to me - she has better cardio, punches considerably more rapidly and probably more accurately. I'm confident I'd beat her 90% of the time in an actual boxing match though because I could shake off her punches (short of a lucky hit) whereas mine would put her on the ground. In a real fight it would be even more one sided because my upper body strength is so much greater and I'd take it to the ground. If she had a weapon like a knife or club, I wouldn't want to bet on the outcome.
Overall if you're a girl fighting a guy, I guess avoiding trouble > running > gun > hand weapon > unarmed combat. Actually that's probably a reasonable way for men to prioritise as well. |
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