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Old 10-01-2017, 10:36 PM   #11
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Might look at the page source to see if something is eating the javascript. For example, the thread tools link to me looks like:
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<td class="vbmenu_control" id="threadtools" nowrap="nowrap">
<a href="/showthread.php?t=152052&amp;nojs=1#goto_threadtools">Thread Tools</a>
<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("threadtools"); </script>
</td>
The third line is what's causing the menu to be sensitive to clicks (indirectly; the function is defined in vbulletin_global.js). Something like a virus scanner would delete or modify that line; on the other hand, disabling scripts at a browser level would just mean the browser ignored that line.
Missed this before, sorry. My thread tools link is looking different, like this:

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<td class="vbmenu_control" id="threadtools" nowrap="nowrap">
		<a href="#goto_threadtools">Thread Tools</a>
		
	</td>
FireFox is definitely set with Javascript enabled. Turning my ad-blocker off makes no difference. FireFox in Safe Mode makes no difference. And it still only affects SJGames, not RPGnet.
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:44 PM   #12
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Mine's looking similar to Armin's:
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<td class="vbmenu_control" id="threadtools" nowrap="nowrap">
    <a href="/showthread.php?p=2126216&amp;nojs=1#goto_threadtools">Thread Tools</a>
    <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("threadtools"); </script>
</td>
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:22 PM   #13
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Mine's looking similar to Armin's:
HTML Code:
<td class="vbmenu_control" id="threadtools" nowrap="nowrap">
    <a href="/showthread.php?p=2126216&amp;nojs=1#goto_threadtools">Thread Tools</a>
    <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("threadtools"); </script>
</td>
That actually looks like Anthony's, rather than mine....

On the other hand, I can also confirm that this is affecting me on more than just FireFox, because I just tested in Edge, and get the exact same behavior.

I have also checked my Proxy settings, in case of infection, and don't appear to have any proxy set up, which is correct. I *also* turned off Norton Auto-Protect and Smart Firewall, neither of which had any effect.

I don't know what else to even try at this point, on my end.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:45 PM   #14
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And this post is from my iPhone, over LTE instead of my home network. The problem persists here, so I no longer believe that this is something on my end.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:53 PM   #15
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Aha, I had some browser settings set to lenient, when I change it I get the same behavior you do. On firefox it's being blocked by anti-phishing settings, possibly because it doesn't use https.
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Old 10-02-2017, 10:10 AM   #16
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Unfortunately, turning off the anti-phishing options in Firefox doesn't make any difference. Nor would that affect Edge; or my iPhone on LTE, which is a different network.

I'm pretty well stumped at this point.

ETA: Thanks for your help with this, Anthony. I appreciate it.
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Old 10-02-2017, 10:20 AM   #17
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The browser manufacturers use some common resources to decide what to block, so if forums.sjgames.com is listed in one multiple browsers would be affected.
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Old 10-02-2017, 10:51 AM   #18
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The browser manufacturers use some common resources to decide what to block, so if forums.sjgames.com is listed in one multiple browsers would be affected.
The kicker for me is my iPhone. It not only doesn't use anything off my PC, it doesn't even use the same network when I put it on LTE!* But it also works fine on RPGnet but not here. (RPGnet does use https for its forums.)

I don't understand why it's just me and Phantasm seeing this, either. This may turn me into a conspiracy theorist. Grr.

Armin

* (I even looked at my Comcast ISP settings, just in case, and my 'Protected Browsing' option is turned off there, too.)
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:16 AM   #19
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The kicker for me is my iPhone.
The shared resource they use is a website; it would affect any browser on any network that uses it.
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Old 10-02-2017, 12:48 PM   #20
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FWIW, on this machine Firefox and Edge get the no-JavaScript version of Thread Tools while Chrome and the Chromium browsers get the popup menu version. JavaScript is enabled and extensions don't seem to matter.
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