I'm glad SJG agrees with me about gender.

Dunmer999 · 08-23-2013, 01:52 PM

I've already read what SJG says about this, so I'm not looking for an answer, just discussion. When I played with friends who owned Munchkin before I did, we had a disagreement. When I first noticed an item that was gender specific (pointy chest armor or something), I asked what the rules about character sex are. The owner said he starts as male, but if his mother played, she'd be female. So I equipped the armor, and a few turns later, the game's owner told me I didn't count as female. I don't know if it was disrespect, or just wanting me to be weaker, but it bothered me.

I've read SJG's ruling, that a person's character is the sex they identify as, and the owner already knew I'm female. I'm just here to say I'm glad the company agrees with me about my character. I was a bit afraid that a company making nerdy games would be stuck in the mindset of a pre-teen on such subjects.

A note: The owner of the game didn't even remember some of the rules, like there were more phases than just Kick Down The Door, so I don't blame him for being ignorant about a ruling I read online.

six's monkey · 08-23-2013, 04:51 PM

One of the features of Level Playing Field which intrigues me is the gender-indication token.
A Munchkin's gender is quite a bit more subject to change than a player's, and I see no problem with allowing gender selection during turn zero. Default is for character and player gender to match, but with a working means of displaying it, there's no reason for that to be binding.
I think I'll have players declare their various attributes chosen (race, class, nationality, accent, style, etc. if available in their initial draw) including gender before rolling to see who goes first in turn one.

MunchkinMan · 08-23-2013, 05:07 PM

Though the rules do say that's the default, they've also said that it doesn't matter if you choose some alternate method. Over the years I've heard of many groups who pick randomly who is what gender just because sometimes it's nice to be able to use Items you couldn't normally because you're a "dude."

08-23-2013, 01:52 PM	#1
Dunmer999 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Decatur, TN, USA	I'm glad SJG agrees with me about gender. I've already read what SJG says about this, so I'm not looking for an answer, just discussion. When I played with friends who owned Munchkin before I did, we had a disagreement. When I first noticed an item that was gender specific (pointy chest armor or something), I asked what the rules about character sex are. The owner said he starts as male, but if his mother played, she'd be female. So I equipped the armor, and a few turns later, the game's owner told me I didn't count as female. I don't know if it was disrespect, or just wanting me to be weaker, but it bothered me. I've read SJG's ruling, that a person's character is the sex they identify as, and the owner already knew I'm female. I'm just here to say I'm glad the company agrees with me about my character. I was a bit afraid that a company making nerdy games would be stuck in the mindset of a pre-teen on such subjects. A note: The owner of the game didn't even remember some of the rules, like there were more phases than just Kick Down The Door, so I don't blame him for being ignorant about a ruling I read online.

08-23-2013, 04:51 PM	#2
six's monkey Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Tri-Cities, WA	Re: I'm glad SJG agrees with me about gender. One of the features of Level Playing Field which intrigues me is the gender-indication token. A Munchkin's gender is quite a bit more subject to change than a player's, and I see no problem with allowing gender selection during turn zero. Default is for character and player gender to match, but with a working means of displaying it, there's no reason for that to be binding. I think I'll have players declare their various attributes chosen (race, class, nationality, accent, style, etc. if available in their initial draw) including gender before rolling to see who goes first in turn one.

08-23-2013, 05:07 PM	#3
MunchkinMan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Macungie, PA	Re: I'm glad SJG agrees with me about gender. Though the rules do say that's the default, they've also said that it doesn't matter if you choose some alternate method. Over the years I've heard of many groups who pick randomly who is what gender just because sometimes it's nice to be able to use Items you couldn't normally because you're a "dude." __________________ Erik D. Zane *Munchkin* NetRep -- munchkin@sjgames.com MiB #1029