09-18-2013, 02:11 PM | #11 | |
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I don't have any issues with nonhuman intelligence or human modification in general. Please don't take as me saying "You're doing it wrong." It was just the impression I had when I read your intro. Last edited by Keiko; 09-18-2013 at 02:14 PM. |
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09-18-2013, 02:19 PM | #12 |
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I'm probably misreading your tone or its application hear but this came across as someone contemptuous of the idea of space travel and I read that as reflecting the general attitude in the setting: its something only an idiot would do. That contributed to the cynical vibe I got from the setting outline.
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09-18-2013, 02:34 PM | #13 | |
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Is tech progress petering out because people don't care to try harder, or do people not invest a lot of time and energy in new tech and science because practical limits have been reached in many areas? That's something scholars might debate in the setting. Most folks are likely busy with other concerns. The abandonment of space was presented in that way to thwart reader/player expectations of extraterrestrial colonies, yes. That's a dream that failed. There's a certain sad romance to that, at least for me. YMMV. Earth is meant to be the main focus of the setting, the home of humanity and most of its created races. But I can imagine a game in which a PC climbed into his rocket with his girlfriend, his neo-chimp buddy, and a bunch of AI bots and took off for Luna to investigate legends of AI civ developing there. Or flew even further out, to search for lost colonies and ancient artifacts. |
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09-18-2013, 02:36 PM | #14 |
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Nope. People react that because it's a world in which humanity has reached a virtual dead end. Progress is over and the world will never get better and we'll never learn anything new or go anywhere we've never been. You've made a future that doesn't have one.
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09-18-2013, 02:54 PM | #15 | |
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You need to distinguish between exploring space and living in space or on other planets. A lot of exploration has been done with probes. AI might increase that trend. If an AI can do the job just as well, why send a human with all that expensive life support? What I don't think is likely with conservative projections based on current technology (5M is a CHSF tech path setting) and related social and economic factors is human colonization of the Solar System. Not impossible, but implausible. |
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09-18-2013, 03:00 PM | #16 | ||
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Of course there is a future. It's just not the one that some people might hope for. Every human being reaches a dead end. It's called 'death.' :) And every species will become extinct someday. Even in universes with lots and lots of space colonies, the Heat Death awaits. The Sun will die long before that. Quote:
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09-18-2013, 03:03 PM | #17 | |
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And I would just take that as a challenge. ;) |
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09-18-2013, 03:11 PM | #18 |
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09-18-2013, 03:13 PM | #19 |
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So what can we do to help?
do you just want to share? do you want error checking on whats plausible or not? do you want comments on whats fun in this world? do you want suggestions on features of the world?
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09-18-2013, 03:19 PM | #20 | |
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A lot can change without tubs of new tech and/or major scientific breakthroughs (which I haven't ruled are all strictly impossible in physical terms-- that may be true in some areas and not true in others) Humans could become extinct. Existing human and parahuman cultures might evolve in new directions. A new tech path might emerge, like Safetech or even Retrotech. Go far enough ahead in time and uplifted animals may have evolved greater intelligence, allowing them to create their own post-human civilizations. AI civ in space might develop independently of humanity, as has been suggested. Maybe friendly AIs in space would even offer to help some adventurous humans out into the 'forgotten frontier.' David, I appreciate your take on the setting. If it seems bleak, depressing, or just unappealing to you, my feelings won't be hurt. I've always appreciated your comments. Last edited by combatmedic; 09-18-2013 at 03:47 PM. |
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