Quick Question: How does Appearance/Social Stigma work with monsters?

Raekai · 08-12-2013, 11:02 AM

By definition, it seems to me that Appearance is really only supposed to count for members of your same or similar races. But what about monsters? Some of them are truly ugly or grotesque, and some not, but we still react to them as if they are. While they may not necessarily give off an aura of terror, everyone knows that the thing over there is a demon and to run away. But demons aren't necessarily freaked out by other ugly demons. It almost feels like a Social Stigma to me, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for.

Thanks.

EDIT: Wow, I totally forgot about Social Stigma (Monster). I'm gonna go have my coffee now. Something didn't wake up this morning.

vicky_molokh · 08-12-2013, 01:37 PM

Appearance normally affects either your/similar species, or the dominant species of the setting.

cosmicfish · 08-12-2013, 02:02 PM

I could see a frequency modifier to Appearance, similar to Reputation, but it does not currently exist in RAW to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it should.

Not · 08-12-2013, 02:19 PM

If you want to be equally ugly to humans as to demons, there's a Universal modifier, so Ugly would go from -8 to -10. If you want to be differentially unattractive to various species, work out some weighted average according to frequency of encounter [not supported by the rules to my knowledge]. Or just take a few quirks and save time.

Ulzgoroth · 08-12-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

Appearance normally affects either your/similar species, or the dominant species of the setting.

Though I'd suggest what it really means there is aesthetics, not species. Both humans* who align to a very different model and quite alien things that buy right into the general model are entirely reasonable.

*or other dominant entity-type

Flyndaran · 08-13-2013, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Though I'd suggest what it really means there is aesthetics, not species. Both humans* who align to a very different model and quite alien things that buy right into the general model are entirely reasonable.

*or other dominant entity-type

I'm pretty sure hot in the body piercing circus community is not quite the same as hardcore Saudi Arabian aesthetic. ;)

08-12-2013, 11:02 AM	#1
Raekai World's Worst Detective Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, Ohio	Quick Question: How does Appearance/Social Stigma work with monsters? By definition, it seems to me that Appearance is really only supposed to count for members of your same or similar races. But what about monsters? Some of them are truly ugly or grotesque, and some not, but we still react to them as if they are. While they may not necessarily give off an aura of terror, everyone knows that the thing over there is a demon and to run away. But demons aren't necessarily freaked out by other ugly demons. It almost feels like a Social Stigma to me, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for. Thanks. EDIT: Wow, I totally forgot about Social Stigma (Monster). I'm gonna go have my coffee now. Something didn't wake up this morning. __________________ Raekai's links: My blog about conlanging, GURPS, and other stuff! — Using Knowing Your Own Strength with Conditional Injury Simulating multiple attacks Wildcard Power Pool: a flexible magic/powers system Magic to RPM complete conversion v2 (incomplete) Perussinexian Magic 2 (outdated) Last edited by Raekai; 08-12-2013 at 11:33 AM.

08-12-2013, 01:37 PM	#2
vicky_molokh GURPS FAQ Keeper Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kyïv, Ukraine	Re: Quick Question: How does Appearance/Social Stigma work with monsters? Appearance normally affects either your/similar species, or the dominant species of the setting. __________________ Vicky 'Molokh', GURPS FAQ and uFAQ Keeper

08-12-2013, 02:02 PM	#3
cosmicfish Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Quick Question: How does Appearance/Social Stigma work with monsters? I could see a frequency modifier to Appearance, similar to Reputation, but it does not currently exist in RAW to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps it should.

08-12-2013, 02:19 PM	#4
Not Join Date: Feb 2013	Re: Quick Question: How does Appearance/Social Stigma work with monsters? If you want to be equally ugly to humans as to demons, there's a Universal modifier, so Ugly would go from -8 to -10. If you want to be differentially unattractive to various species, work out some weighted average according to frequency of encounter [not supported by the rules to my knowledge]. Or just take a few quirks and save time.